2017 Formula 1 - The next generation

Haas has by far the fewest number of people in their team. Instead they spend their money on Ferrari parts.

And yes a tie in with Alfa that could be very good for Sauber.

Hope it all works out for you guys, Ian

FWIW I dunno why Marchionne doesnā€™t just buy the team ?

For all his fannoying flatulent carping, itā€™s obvious that Libertyā€™s model - while perhaps not increasing turnover - should make teams more profitable, so he getā€™s two seats at the table (three if Gene does as heā€™s told) and shared costs for the engine + shared chassis bitsā€™nā€™bobs

Meanwhile, I hope we all enjoyed ths? Would love a trip to the Macau GP. That could be one hell of a trip

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Saw Andy Wallace win there in 1986.
Not a great venue TBF but great racing. Atmospheric if you can get the right position. Lisboa is obvious, as is the Hairpin or Fishermanā€™s. We were at Mandarin which was pretty much flat.

At least we might be able to see what tyre is on each car.

Looks like a failed advert for Viagraā€¦

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Interesting headline on formula1.com: ā€œBottas defeats Hamilton in 2017 finaleā€

Sure, Bottas won the race, and drove well to do so, but ā€˜defeatsā€™?

ā€œwin a victory over (someone) in a battle or other contest; overcome or beatā€

Seems a reasonable use of English.

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He defeated all the other drivers in the race, not just Hamilton. He beat Hamilton to first place.

Just struck me as a poor use of English, even if grammatically correct. That said, it was the last opportunity this season for anyone to say Hamilton was defeatedā€¦ :wink:

Maybe. But it was still a yawnfest.

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I think Coulthard referred to it as a ā€˜slow burnerā€™. LOL.

Anyway Bottas nailed it, well done!

Good work by Bottas - he looked the most convincing Iā€™ve seen him this year, but yeah, one dull race for sure - I actually nodded-out a couple of times until Sam jabbed me awake to shut my snoring up!

Me too. But in my defence, I had come off Nightshift and, without having any sleep, had consumed several pints of ale and a couple of glasses of Rioja at a neighboursā€™ before watching it.

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I had no such defenceā€¦ :flushed:

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I blame the Spanish plonk :+1:

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In my case it was mostly a slight cold and the skinful of Belhavenā€™s aptly-named ā€œPity the Foolā€ I had the night beforeā€¦

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So Ian has some new shiny red toys (parts) to play with ! Looking forward to seeing what they can do with them

(pencils Alfa into my 2018 fantasy f1 team)

Whatever the performance aspects, itā€™s good to see a seemingly stable future for Sauber

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Sauber has been around a longtime and it is good to see that its medium term future is now sorted out. We just have to deliver more vehicle performance for 2018 and particularly 2019ā€¦

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