Johnson urges better Russia relations
Boris Johnson and Sergei Lavrov clash over cyber attacks but also trade jokes after talks in Moscow.
Looks like EU blue to me (which should have suited better than the burgenndy one for EU countries)
Looking at the passport, I read
United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland.
I now start to realize that I incorrectly used UK and Great Britain as a designation for the same entitiy.
But it is not. Shame on me.
Could anybody explain then why at the Olympics you have TeamGB?
That implies that the N. Irish arenât in the same team. But they are.
And weâre not talking UKxit.
Brexit is then correct, the main Island leaves the EU, N. Ireland is not Britain, so could stay in the EUâŚ
I thought nationalism and patriottism are easy to understand, but now I only get more confused.
Itâs easy to be confused. As you now realise, GB is the main island, part of the British Isles (which includes Ireland). âBritishâ then becomes an odd concept with respect to Ireland and Northern Ireland.
Itâs worth pointing out that nobody in GB has any interest in NI whatsoever. Weâre certainly more bothered about Gibraltar, say, or the Falkland Islands. They donât blow us up.
The only people vaguely interested in NI are the Tories - even before the DUP malarkey, their official name is the Conservative and Unionist Party. Most Tories donât realise this, though. They should change their name to the Conservative and Unionist Nationalist Tories though.
I think that the main reason we go for âGBâ stuff is that itâs easier to say British - âUnited Kingdomâ is rather clumsy, and we donât have a word âKingdomishâ. This I think then drives the ridiculous nationalism recently - nobody identifies as UK, GB is often wrong, so people go for English/Scottish/Welsh and we get stupidity growing.
Lol, nope, just as meh.
ft
Really? If Iceland invaded Northern Ireland I reckon weâd have a long think before any action, and weâd probably start with diplomacy. But the Falklands or Gibraltar, well, the ships might not make it all the way, but weâd certainly despatch them.
I was speaking personally.
Theyâd have to find some seaworthy ships they could send first. All of the type 45 destroyers are fucked. The new aircraft carrier leaks & has no planes. Thereâs talk of an RIB that people lark about on down in the Med but whether theyâd be up for taking it to the South Atlantic is anyoneâs guess.
Boris Johnson and Sergei Lavrov clash over cyber attacks but also trade jokes after talks in Moscow.
Get that blue passport while you can. When we are an Oblast they will be red again.
The EU have never dictated the colour of our passports.
If we change them to blue, bring back milk in pints and carry on films, I reckon we could stay in the EU and 80% of leave voters wouldnât even notice.
I admire the patience of the many that continue the debate. I find that discussing Brexit is like dancing about architecture, fucking pointless for the most part
This clip sums it up for me, its really worth listening to. Superbly encapsulates the debate going on across the UK between those who work in facts and the brexiteers, many of whom act as though its a belief system.
After that you will need some lighthearted relief
Thank you for that. I now want to find myself a nice wall and bang my head repeatedly until 29/3/19
If we change them to blue, bring back milk in pints and carry on films, I reckon we could stay in the EU and 80% of leave voters wouldnât even notice.
But itâs the old money they want back. With the form filling and airport queues.
They were never blue anyway