is that the Sky one, that Devialet are making? Huge discounts for Sky Customers I believe
Will the sky thing be as overpriced and fugly as the phantoms?
Iād go for the Sonos, decent looking and not made by Devialet.
looks like a normal soundbar
āThe speaker, which will go on sale for Ā£799 to non-Sky subscribers, costs just Ā£249 for current and new Sky Q multiscreen customers, and Ā£299 for all other Sky TV or Sky Broadband and Talk customers when it becomes available,ā
I just got a small pair of active speakers from Richer sounds. They do the job very well and much better than the soundbars I tried.
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Canāt you just turn the other system up loud so you can hear it?
I bought a Panasonic TV so donāt need a sound bar.
Just get a Kef 200 reference centre speaker and a small intergrated amp with tone controls, same damn thing.
Get a Sony A1-series Bravia 4K OLED TV.
New TV, (possibly) bigger screen, better picture, and sound through the screen so no speakers required.
Probably more expensive than the Devialets, to be fairā¦
My interest in the Phantoms died when I learnt they canāt be fixed. If they get past the warranty youāre on your own. Consider how much electronics are crammed into that hostile environmentā¦
Hiya Rick - good to see you back! 
Hi Jim, thanks 
Hope youāre well!
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That is rather surprising, unless they offer long warranties and exceptional trade in for the newer model.
Yeah, I hadnāt considered that as a problem until someone else pointed it out.
If they canāt be bothered to fix the Phantoms due to all the tech crammed in, are they going to be bothered/able to fix the hifi models they make?
I would suspect the bathroom scales are the same. Will be interesting once the warranty runs out.
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The other amps are easily repairable and both hardware and software updatable. Mine are in France having a (free) hardware update at the moment.
OTOH I didnāt know they didnāt repair Phantoms, mine are well out of warranty.
I have heard stories about them not being able to open them once sealed - which may be true, we had that problem with our first carbon F1 chassis mould, but the engineer I met who works there told me the sequence to strip one is not obvious.
They have to be sealed so the DSP bass works as deep as it does from a small cabinet.
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They arenāt that bad to open if you have the tools and technique. All you need is a high building and a hard pavement.
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or the Phantom cracker over in the tools thread
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