2026 Formula One Merry-go-Round

This is ……. Not terribly helpful

https://x.com/autosport/status/2044347401360527636?s=46&t=JAZ29qzJW_ggL3AI1Le9Xg

Bah. Wanky twatter link not work

Full interview, if one’s that way inclined

First 10 seconds: interviewer uses ā€œinterregnumā€ wrongly; any hope for anything meaningful dies…

Domenicali: ā€œThe emperor is not only not naked, he’s the best-dressed emperor in the history of empire-ing - bigly.ā€ :nauseated_face:

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Well-raced for victory.

Did anyone watch the race ?

I tried, but nodded-out a few times…

What the absolute complete and total FUCK is the FIA on these days?

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Half watched the Youtube 8minute highlights.

I’m trying to be interested, but i just want light cars with V8/10 and manual gear box.

Watched most of it, missed the middle part as we were having dinner (does not sound like I missed much other than the pitstops). A lot of talk about the higher amount of overtakes this year, but all the yo-yoing just feels pointless as its just who has the most boost/least de-rating etc on that particular lap. In the end, just like with DRS, eventually the driver will get ahead and out of that 1-second barrier and the faster driver/car will be in the same position.
You still have the Aston/Caddilac 3-sec off the pace, midfield teams staying in the midfield (good points for Williams though this race) and the top 3 teams plus Verstappen at the front. I guess it is closer at the front, at least this race since the various changes, some positivity?

Does it make for more overtaking/action on track, yes, is it better racing, I don’t think so at all, at least so far!

I’m really growing tired of the Ol’ Giffers banging on about, ā€œIt’s too technicalā€¦ā€, ā€œNo driver inputā€¦ā€, ā€œIt’s too boringā€¦ā€, ā€œOnly about the batteryā€¦ā€, etc… Ad-fuckin’-Nauseum !
Memories seem very short.

Every time there is a regulation change, there are those who utilise that change better than others. It ALWAYS spreads the field.

Max bitching and moaning is no different from Schumacher, Senna, Prost, Keke Rosberg, Alonso, et al. When things aren’t how they want it or they haven’t adjusted to it, they bitch and moan. Until they start winning.

It’s ā€œNot like the old daysā€ is fatuous. Besides the fact that most seasons were dominated by ONE driver or team, and bugger-all passing.

Change happens. Get on with it, or get to fuck.

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So you want V10’s back too then? :grinning_face:

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You’re arguing against a criticism nobody is making.

ā€œSome teams adapt to new regs betterā€ has always been true. The issue is that the regs have shifted control away from the driver and into harvesting logic, deployment maps and software management.

There’s a difference between ā€œdominant carā€ and ā€œthe car physically can’t be driven flat-out because the battery math won’t allow itā€.

And assuming one is old enough to buy a beer, it’s not really an overtake when one car suddenly has 400bhp more than the chump in front because the algorithms decided this was the deployment phase.

But perhaps Fangio spent his races managing recharge targets too, and I’m just mistaken.

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Except YOU missed the point.

Drivers complained that they couldn’t drive their cars flat out with;
grooved tyres, narrow track, less down force, raised ride heights, etc, etc.

Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t make it wrong.

Time to get on with it.

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We’ll probably have to agree to disagree :smiley:.

To me, there’s a fundamental difference between ā€œthe car has limitationsā€ and ā€œthe car dictates how and when the driver can use its performanceā€.

Previous regs constrained the driver. These regs increasingly control the driver.

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IMO the car has been dictating too much for quite some years.
Back in the day some years one car had such a big advantage only reliability decided the result. Some years there were 2 driver/car combinations that could win which made it more interesting for many fans.
Since semi automatic gearboxes have been reliable and the big heavy engines capable of doing 7 or 8 races have been mandated reliability has been a much smaller influence.
In my early days most overtakes of cars with similar performance were due to a driver missing a gear or due to the aggressive throttle response and non-linearity of the throttle of the fixed ignition timing engine with direct cable link to the throttles.
There was great skill in gearshifting without damaging the gearbox or over-revving the engine, particularly when dicing. That is all gone, my Mum could change gear now as well as Lewis Hamilton and fly by wire throttle makes them much easier to control.
I like the fact that there is now a potential for driver to make a mistake in harvesting power when dicing and get overtaken, I consider it the nearest analogue to missing a gear we have had for decades.

Before DRS you needed to be 2 to 3 secs a lap faster than the car you caught in order to overtake it if you dropped behind for any reason, overtaking literally only ever took place in the pit stop strategy, with DRS it was much better racing since if you were quicker you had a chance of overtaking and pulling away - which hadn’t happened for years.
DRS got slagged off by, IMO, ignorant journalists (and hence inevitably fans), and the new replacement is the same thing in a different hat.

I preferred it when we had H-pattern gearboxes, light screaming engines with a 400km life, 3 pedals and a direct link between pedal and throttle.
We could go back to that but I don’t expect the big car companies would stay at the funding level they are at so I can’t see it happening because the owners are enjoying taking tens of millions in profit and the shares are going up all the time.
Money and new technology is the way it is now, ABS and traction control are banned but I can’t see the H-pattern dog box coming back, and that would make the big difference in overtaking and reliability.

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Amen to that.
But it will never happen again.

This is how I view it.

Keep on keeping on Frank.

The comparison between harvesting mistakes and missed shifts is a really interesting one, Frank. I hadn’t looked at it that way :clap: Everyone misses the 80s onboards where driver skill — and error — were visible.

I suppose where I still struggle is understanding how much of deployment management genuinely sits with the driver, versus how much is fundamentally dictated by algo. Perhaps there’s more direct driver influence there than I appreciate?

But when nealry all the drivers talk about the car effectively deciding when deployment arrives, it feels qualitatively different from the old ā€œdriver made a mistakeā€ dynamic? If the driver were in control of the deployment, I certainly wouldn’t give two hoots about what tech is in the power unit.

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The optimum place and amount of deployment will be modelled by the engineers rather than worked out by the drivers but I believe it is them that control the lift and coast and press the boost button.
For me the cars have had far too few driver inputs for too long and pretty well everything, from seamless gearshift to the throttle law is done for them. I would ban car to pit telemetry and radio, personally.

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