Budget 2024

Why is there no VAT on Uni fees?

They’re shoud bea VAT on spelling mistakes

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In all seriousness, there is probably a lot of work to be done on the underlying regulations to make sure that they hit what they want to (private schools) and not nurseries, childcare, universities, adult education etc. etc.

I suspect there is also going to be a lot of pushing round the edges from VAT advisors around kids below the age of 5 in reception years, boarding provision and other stuff that would come under the heading of welfare.

I thought the move to tax assets via the changes to inheritance tax was a good move. As the baby boomer cark it and pass on their assets as inheritance then Itaxing this aset capital gain makes sence. can see more

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I can’t believe you’re on the fence / torn!

My secondary school was similar, as are most in Cardiff. Things have gotten worse if anything.

I’m often on the sidelines at our Lokel-Yokel get-togethers when some Drink has been taken, and the vapers vs. smokers arguments get underway, tho’ since one of the smokers is currently seriously (possibly terminally) ill in hospital right now with a smoking-related cancer, it’s all gone quiet for a bit.

Rare moments I can get a word in edgewise, I like to reminisce about my how my grandad fumigated his greenhouses, poultry sheds, aviaries and pig-stys: He’d buy what looked like fireworks from the hardware shop - conical things, packed with pure refined nicotine, which came complete with a blue touchpaper. These were placed in said outbuildings, all entrances sealed, and lit, at which point you ran.

After a few hours every living thing inside was comprehensively dead - scale-mites, lice, whitefly, mice, rats, viruses, fungi, protozoa… Even things that laid dessication-proof eggs - dead. Everything.

It doesn’t matter f you smoke it, vape it, or wad it up and cram it up your arse, nicotine wants you dead - that’s why tobacco plants developed the stuff. It’s a poison, it’s meant to be a poison, it doesn’t matter how you get that poison on board, it’s still a poison.

Not a moral judgement - just don’t kid yourself.

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Best budget in many many years.

Missing was money for social services to clear hospital beds.

Should have gone harder on earnings from Assets though. Go after passive income hard, and get rid of tax all together for more people on low wages.

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Should have gone far heavier on taxing Megacorps and the ultra wealthy.

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what i hated was the tory c**ts on the news saying

“oh they promised they wouldn’t do big tax increases, and here they are putting up taxes”

i want to reach into the radio and grab that pr**k by the neck and remind him that the only reason they need to do that, is because his government have been literally raping the country for money for the last 12 years. Theres no money left because they mispent it all.

I’m happy to see some sensible, level headed approaches to taxation that, while not radical, are necessary to slowly dig us out of the hole we have been in for over a decade.

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Looking forward to gammons somehow relying on the ECHR in trying to sink a Labour policy.

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The claimants will be parents of children with severe special needs. They are hardly “gammons”.

Have a look at the education not taxation facebook page for some examples. I challenge you not to feel some empathy for the childfen and even the parents.

No chance they have SLD or PLMD, they would have had an EHCP lined up and have a placed lined up from the start (possibly at a NMSS if they are in somewhere like Oxfordshire with not enough places).

My wife said the same. I’m guessing that taxing the mega corps, on profits they declare were made in other jurisdictions, is largely impossible due to skilled tax lawyers / planning.

The mega wealthy would just go to Monaco, if they haven’t already.

She told our local MP that he earned more than us, so based on their mantra that the tax was to be born with the broadest shoulders, how were we paying more tax than him?

I think you’ll be surprised.

In any event, your “gammons” description is hardly considered. You have no idea who the claimants parents are. Talk about stereotyping.

And you want heartbreaking stories really? How about the kids where you can literally see them go physically backwards over the summer holidays where the school.is the one source of stability, because that is what they are despite having less funding than before. No apologies, better provision for the 95% covers everyone rather than those who can sort of afford tens of thousands a year.

Why aren’t you paying more?

We’re paying tax, saving a state school place (£7k a year is the figure I’ve seen quoted) and now paying VAT on education. Which, is not allowed in any EU country / law. Plus, we’re now additionally subsidising the state system. The provision of education was one of the 4 original legally defined charitable acts.

Don’t assume stuff about how we interact with our boy’s school (where I am also a governor). And also don’t assume that with previous jobs I haven’t been all over the issues around public benefit for education including how schools can, or try to even though they may not be the same thing, justify the public bit of public benefit requirements.

Protip: the tax saving bit went into private school financial reporting very early after the change in charity legislation and screamed straight out again when it was pointed out that it didn’t work.

Oh, and where exactly have I called parents (as opposed to the main rank of tabloid cheerleaders for private schools) gammon?

I didn’t assume anything. I don’t disagree that education needs more funding. I just don’t understand why I’m supposed to pay for it and not you or any other tax payer, bar parents who are already saving the state considerable sums of money. Why is this extra tax not dependent on income levels like everything else?

It’s parents who are bringing the claims not newspapers.

Haha, you’re a beaut.

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This getts trotted out frequently about how it’s impossible to tax the rich. It’s not rich as in high earners that are fucking the middle class. it’s the wealthy (as in owners of vast assets who are buying further assets from the squeezed middle class that is widening inequality and distribution of money) They own your mortgage, the government debt, the land, the office blocks the shops etc - it doesn’t matter where they ‘live’ their income generated is on assets here and that can be taxed - I’m sure it will be tricky but a good place to start.

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