Israel, Hamas, the Middle East

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Israel are so desperate for an escalation with Iran.

There is no way they could take on Iran without US & UK + others support, but if the UK commits it would be a fucking disgrace.

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This looks very much like incendiary or mag/phos bombs which is a war crime when used against civilians.

Why the fuck isn’t the beeb picking up on that instead of the bullshit of

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said a “limited, localised and targeted” ground operation is under way against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.

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It’s all kicking off now… a huge volley of missiles from Iran, with more impacting than in April’s attack. Seems about the same scale although it seems more ballistic missiles whereas last time was more of a mix of ballistic, cruise and drones, IIRC.

Edit: seems much larger than April. The videos on OSINT X accounts are crazy.
Edit 2: amazing that no-one got hurt, reportedly.

Iran clearly has a death wish .:crazy_face:

If I were an Iranian scientist working at one of their nuclear facilities I’d be booking some leave and taking a break on the coast, far far away.

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Do you think the mullahs allow holiday leave?

They didn’t even issue a NOTAM - some interesting footage of rockets taken from passing airlines :grimacing:

This is purely ill-informed idle musing, but I’m wondering if at this stage, assassinating Khomeini might actually bring about some kind of peace. I get the impression that he’s one of the most fanatical people in Iran, and there are enough senior IRGC that wouldn’t be too upset if he goes - and would quite like some kind of normalisation with the rest of the region. Maybe there are enough friendly contacts to bring about a regime change if he goes?

Not that the west has much success in this.

I guess you mean Khamenei. Khomeini has been dead since in 1989.

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Nice little invasion of oil rich country to cover costs incoming.

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Weird, I typed the former but it showed me a spelling error and suggested the latter. I assumed it knew better so accepted (a synecdoche of sorts for what’s wrong with the rest of my life).

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The historical precedent for successful Western-influenced regime changes anywhere is as colourful as it is unsuccessful. The death of Khameini would likely propel the most militant possible successor into his ‘throne’…

Militant Isalm is WAY bigger than Iran (who I agree would rather simply be left well alone), and is now a separate issue to that of Islamic nations vs.Israel given its unlimited expansionist agenda…

Israel’s unceasing human rights abuses and mass-murders though - mindlessly and unquestioningly supported by us in the West - that will keep the fires burning forever - or until the really big fireworks are finally unleashed and global obliteration follows.

The State of Israel is pure evil - not from a Muslim POV, but from a human POV, and we’re far too accustomed to accepting and promoting it.

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I see Bidden went support strikes on Irans nuclear bomb sites, but he equally hasn’t said he is opposed to them.

It’s the one set of targets i wish Israel would strike. In five years Iran’s ballistic middle programme will have developed missiles capable of reaching London, Paris, Berlin and Rome. Its not a big stretch of my imagination to think they would be able to deploy instant sunshine warheads on them.

Not surprised that the call for missile defence in the UK is rearing its head in the current Defence Review.

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You’ll know the problems of local defence against missiles with nukes on them better than I do Bob. You’d much sooner deal with them long before they’re in your airspace.

Haven’t the Iranians been putting their production facilities underground ? That was why the destruction of all those centrifuges by hacking their control software and causing them to self-destruct was such a very smart move. It’s unlikely to work twice though.

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Yes, the centrifuges are. However the heavy water reactor facility ( plutonium) and the Parchim research facility ( implosion research) aren’t. I just have zero trust in that State’s intentions when it comes to nuclear fuel production. Their track record of declaring facilities and allowing unimpeded inspections at short notice is woeful, often not declaring a facility at all.

At least our facilities in the early days were obvious, we even got the Queen to open one of them in a fanfare of publicity. That was likely aimed at the Americans more than anyone else mind, just to let them know we were in the game so to speak.

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Wasn’t exactly a quiet affair.

Sorry, are we talking about Iran or Israel here?

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Iran, we know Israel has nuclear weapons as well as the ability of launching then from a submarine. Short range, their list of targets is essentially their neighbours.

Iran on the other hand already has a 2000 mile balistic missile capability. I know which regime worries me more, even given the current fucknegget running Israel.

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Me too, particularly in terms of causing havoc in the Middle East.

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