This is a bar so low, it’s not possible for anything other than a micro organism to fit under it. Objectively, the SNP demonstrate the same basic failings as every other UK political party (over focus on the short term, unwillingness to risk even momentary unpopularity to a beneficial long term end and a pathological desire to avoid scrutiny). I stand by what I said; the quality of politicians the length and breadth of the UK is appalling and that includes the party you like too.
You make some valid points but in contrast to the Tories the SNP have remained in power for over a decade because they are generally competent and have enjoyed capable leadership.
The Tories have only remained in power because of the lack of an effective opposition. It is a disgrace that Labour were unable to unseat successive clusterfuck Tory governments led by utterly incompetent shitgibbons who have wreaked irreparable damage upon our country as a result of ill conceived dogma masquerading as policy.
All this is true… but it’s completely disingenuous to suggest that the SNP didn’t make hay from the same collapse of Labour north of the border (in no small part from Labour assuming Scottish constituencies were vassals that would be in its control forever).
Again, this is nothing personal; it’s an observation. It’s the same low grade opportunism the pollutes every other part of UK politics. When it comes to nuts and bolts stuff; ‘Judge me on Education’, island ferries, not lying your arse off that you had no idea your predecessor was a nasty sex pest etc, it’s the same gulf in expectations and reality that everyone else in the UK lives with; It just waves a different flag with the same diversionary intent.
I believe that the SNP are much more popular here despite their failings which you detail than the Tories are in the UK as a whole and I think it is down to people believing that Nicola Sturgeon is a decent person and a competent politician who is doing a good job in difficult circumstances.
Luckily I filled up a couple of days ago, which should last me about 3 weeks or so, depending on how much running about I have to do, which hopefully will get me past this current idiocy.
I am content to agree to disagree on Alex Salmond.
I typed an extended reply and canned it. It’s the internet and it’s not worth it. On a basic level, I despise modern politicians be they being a cunt in the UN or getting po faced we’re laughing at them for falling off their scooter. If you still believe, that’s fine, just don’t ever trust them because the chances are they’re no smarter than you. They don’t have a higher path in mind.
I appreciate where you’re coming from. I think if I lived in England I’d feel the same way. Your politics is soul destroying. The SNP at least offer a way out of the nightmare that you’re condemned to endure until Labour finally gets its act together.
Unfortunately although I believe in independence, I very much doubt that my fellow Scots will vote for it when push comes to shove. Deep down I fear that I’m condemned to share your fate of endless Tory fuckery but the SNP does offer a tiny kernel of hope of better times and I cling to it fiercely as does approximately half of Scotland.
OK, I stuffed my unused reply into text, just in case.
A significant facet of SNP damage mitigation is being able to blame nefarious external forces for everything bad that happens to it, in a not entirely dissimilar way to the Tory party did up to the 22nd June 2016. As you know, there have been no adverse consequences whatsoever to the consequences of the public acting on that belief. None at all.
I was (still am) passionately anti Brexit, not out of any great abiding affection for the EU but because I fundamentally believed that every single soul involved with the advocacy of carrying it out had not the slightest understanding of the mechanics of what leaving it involved. I have absolutely no doubt you will vehemently disagree with me but nothing (and I mean literally nothing) I’ve seen in Scottish politics from the 23rd June 2016 onward has convinced me that anyone involved has taken anything on board from Brexit. Looping back to the short term unpopularity/long term gain theme, it’s all sunlit uplands with a few more windmills and a light smattering of drizzle.
I’m not a passionate unionist, if the vote happens, it happens. My issue is that when you say ‘your politics’ it genuinely suggests that Holyrood has some great and profound insight that Westminster doesn’t and- viewed through the same prism of visceral dislike that I view all modern politicians- it really, really doesn’t.
Perhaps the misanthropy speaking, but I can’t help feeling that any supposed inherent difference in politics between Scotland and England will evaporate the minute there is any disruption to their lives (as I’m sure there would be if Scotland got independence, at least in the short term) and the same ugly cuntishness would rear up and destroy any potential long term positive outcomes.