Brexit episode 2 - the attack of the gammon

They won’t get 10p this time with Labour supporting it.

Diffferent situation, Sunak doesn’t need their support to win vote like May did.
Nor to be fair to Sunak has he promised them something and then sold them down the river like Johnson did.

Duppers are in a difficult situation, the extreme loyalists will fuck off to the TUV if they agree and the moderates will fuck off to the Alliance party if they don’t agree and go back to power sharing.
I think they will ‘collectively’ agree as it causes them less damage but internally Ian Paisley and Sammy Wilson will cause havoc.

I tend to agree with this. I think the ERG and DUP will need to be kept sweet by Sunak who doesn’t want to see a rebellion and/or rely on Labour votes. The DUP will want something they can sell as a win to their hardcore so I’m guessing there will be something for them. I’ll be suprised if Sunak just tells them to feck off, although that is what he should do.

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Rely on Labour votes, hope so, but only if Labour then abstain just before the Division is called.

Don’t think Starmer would have the balls for it though.

I’m hoping that the NI business will put sufficient pressure on all the DUP to get this done.

It would be an amazingly stupid thing to do, then Labour would be responsible for no deal in NI and no power sharing and totally screwing the improved relations with the EU.
It wouldn’t even bring down the government as the Tories would all unite on a no confidence vote.

It would be political suicide for Labour

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You don’t need that system to look for criminals in the HoC, HoL and the Met.

Nope, a split Tory party and government and DUP would be responsible. They do have a fucking massive majority.

The smart thing for Labour to do is support the Windsor Agreement and hope that the DUP and ERG cause all sorts of havoc. Anything else would be fucking dumb beyond belief.

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I wonder sometimes whether any of this stuff matters to the voters who will decide who the next government is. I suppose if the tossers’ toy-throwing wears the current government down to the point where it can’t manage stuff the voters see (the NHS, the schools, the availability of stuff in the shops/online, the prices in McDonalds and KFC etc) as it felt like they were doing with Theresa May then it might matter. Otherwise the swing voters will be unconcerned with it. They don’t care whether Stormont is up and running or whether NI supermarkets have bigger gaps on their shelves than GB ones. Fascinating though Labour might find the game, they really need to concentrate on getting Red Wall and Scottish seats back.

That is not how it would be perceived or spun.
The first time Labour had a chance to do something important amd meaningful they preferred to pay politics, and can’t be trusted in Government, especially after Starmer said he would support it.

That is how it would be seen and reported in all the press. Labour may as well cut their own throat as do that

True, but they can’t be seen to be playing fast and loose with the NIP and TGFA

I agree with this. The name of the game is to win back the red wall seats. If Labour can do this by sitting back for a while and allowing the opprobrium associated with the last 12 years or 5 Tory regimes to win the the election for them, then fair play. FWVLIW, I think Sunak has done a proper job with the Windsor agreement and will be harder to be beat than many may think if he carries on like this.

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I’ve a faint hope that Johnson voters will be lukewarm, at best, about Sunak. Much as I personally wish that Johnson would fuck as far as possible off, his inability to resist shit-stirring does at least promise to damage what chances his party might otherwise have.

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Johnson quoted as saying (about his ditched protocol bill)

" Because I’ve no doubt at all, that that was what brought the EU to negotiate seriously."

The reality is that it was Johnson not being involved at all that brought the EU to negotiate seriously.

As Jean-Claude Juncker said today “And Boris Johnson was a piece of work, someone you cannot categorise, in normal definitions”

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The SNP are currently having their very own internal war since Sturgeon stood down so a bit of a swing back to Labour might well happen.

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hahaha express moaning that AI is left wing and thinks brexit was a load of turd muffins

The headline should be that even in its infancy AI has more intelligence than brexiteers and tory muppets.

Google’s ‘left wing’ AI chatbot accused of bias after saying Brexit was ‘bad idea’

The chatbot also claimed the Labour Party has a long history of fighting for equality while the Tories “have a long history of supporting the wealthy and powerful”.

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