Donald Trump finally announced as some massive in-joke (Part 2)

Time for a bit of boycotting?

You mean you are not going to buy the record? :grinning:

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Holy fuck, had to check the link wasn’t for the Onion or Daily Mash.

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The song title is Chain Gang?

Needs to be LOUD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL8chWFuM-s

“produced by a major recording artist who was not identified”.

My money’s on ubercunt Ted Nugent :face_vomiting:

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How do these horrific people get to positions of power?

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By being friends with other horrific ‘people’

When is any one going to nail this bastard to a wall?
It seems that you can avoid trial for anything in the USA.

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Trump will not be indicted, much less go to jail for anything to do with Stormy Daniels.

It has always been the case that the US is extremely unlikely to indict, arrest and try a former president. They’ve gone 247 years without doing so (and through some extremely questionable issues), and they’re not going to build the first case against a former president on a theory so full doubt that very few people can accurately explain it.

Trump has done plenty against the law.
Serious, proven things.
Like coordinating with Russia on the stealing and releasing of Democratic Party emails that revealed information which caused Hillary to lose the 2016 election.
Like self-enrichment through his hotel in the old post office.
He could be charged with real and serious crimes. But the US legal system is going after him for petty misdemeanors, like the payment to Stormy Daniels (which will likely just ‘go away.’).

Here’s why:
State Prosecutor Pomerantz is the former partner of Ronald Fischetti. Fischetti is Trump’s (latest) lawyer.
(Fischetti, Pomerantz, & Russo LLP passionately defended organized crime throughout the 1980s. )

Michael Cohen bought Stormy’s silence with his own $130,000. This provided a $130,000 benefit to the Trump Campaign that: a.) was an excessive contribution above the legal limit; and, b.) not reported.
“Buying silence” is not a crime; a.) & b.) are.

But Trump reimbursed Cohen, amounting to “returning the donation” — the normal resolution used to deal with an excessive donation, and meaning TRUMP paid the money to Stormy.
That’s not illegal because there are no limits on what a candidate can donate to his own campaign. The crime of “excessive contribution” can’t exist if the money was from TRUMP, as it is said to be.

“Paying hush money” is not a crime (directly or through another person).
Trump being the real source of the money removes the criminality of the donation being “excessive,”
leaving the misdemeanor of Trump failing to list his $130,000 expenditure to Stormy on behalf of his campaign, something the Statute of Limitations has run out on anyway.
Pomerantz conceived reviving the SOL on the misdemeanor by saying the way the transactions were later handled on the books constituted a NEW crime, committed later, called “fraud in accounting,” but this is also nothing more than a misdemeanor.
To turn this misdemeanor into a felony, it has to be proven that Trump deliberately mislabeled the reimbursement to Cohen, calling it “payment of legal fees” for the purpose of concealing another crime, which was the first misdemeanor.
Does a misdemeanor become a felony when it’s committed to hide another misdemeanor? Nobody knows.

Is the US, as a country, going to let a mess of (ultimately, minor) misdemeanors be the thing that reverses 247 years of presidential precedent?

That idea continues to be touted as a way to retain media viewing numbers, where the basis for saying the prosecution MUST proceed is the misleading assertion that “Cohen went to jail” for Trump - another misconception.

Twenty percent of Cohen’s jail time was related to Trump. The other 80% was for his own, separate, unrelated-to-Trump bank fraud and tax evasion and so on - activities unrelated to Trump.
Cohen was facing 35 years in prison for his own crimes when he suddenly decided to confess to other crimes that he’d not been charged for, other crimes that would take Trump down with him without adding much to the sentencing he was about to get anyway.
Those confessions added 10 years to the total he already faced.
For this max-possible 45 years, he was sentenced to 3, and actually served about 8 weeks.
And now he is a part of the media representation of the whole mess.

Why is the US legal system wasting so much time, effort and money on this?

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Yes I realise that this case and the Daniels case are civil cases and the US system is very different.
I just don’t understand how nothing can happen when he incited sedition and riot.
Political expediency seems to be more important than the law of the land especially when the individual involved is rich and white.
Nothing seems to have changed in the USA since the lonesome death of Hattie Carrol

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:notes: :musical_note:

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The ‘committees’ investigating the events of Jan 6th (and other actual crimes, not civil offences) that Trump is said to be involved in, are typically led by people who are either Republican, beholden to Trump, or are in some way significantly affected by the first two.

Trump has done well to defer, defer and defer. (Has he released his tax returns yet? I’ve lost interest - something he counted on people doing).
His family are in the middle of this.
The issue seems to be the lack of an actual smoking gun. He said, she said, but did HE do it? The amount of (circumstantial?) evidence is absolutely overwhelming, but individual attributes that would lead to conviction are woefully few. The amount of obfuscation and distraction involved is enormous.

Frankly, I strongly suspect the Republican Party is in a state of panic. They’ve endorsed what to almost everyone is an obvious felon who feathered his own nest, caused death by action and inaction, lied, lied again, obstructed investigations, and is getting away with it. They can’t rally against him because it is their fault he was able to do what he did, but they can’t support him either. And the bloody Democrats are just too weak to do anything solid that would actually count.

What is almost as bad is that were Trump to succumb to his poor diet, lack of exercise and so on, Republicans would just breathe a sigh of relief and carry on as usual.

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:rofl:

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That last sentence is chilling.

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The rest of it: he’s been hitting the glue pretty hard.

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