How do you feel? (Part 1)

I’m a governor of our local Primary School so I know the huge amount of effort the staff are putting in to minimize the risks for all.

I’m not in the loop with what goes on out of school as my daughter left primary 13 years ago. I would feel very disappointed if the kids are mixing out of school but it sounds like they most likely are from your experience.

Yup. It all spits in the face of many different people.

On every walk we go on we see multiple groups of 12-15 year olds roaming together (not distancing). Almost every group with adults and young children will be two households where the children are not distancing and the adults are making some vaguely token effort (i.e. no piggy backs). Same thing for grandparents.

It makes it really shit for our parents that they see countless grandparents with grandchildren on their shoulders whenever they go out for walks.

A lot of the feedback from parents to teachers about the home learning material has been pretty poor and demonstrated very little compassion or understanding that these are other human beings, IMO

It’s not really cast the entitled, privileged, whiny cunts that inhabit the area in the best light tbh.

There was a guy on the bbc debate show last night that basically said “it’s only elderly that are at risk so why can’t we just isolate them and let everyone else get on with their lives”- this seems to be the prevalent attitude here. Again, just my impression.

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I probably belong in the “How do you actually feel” thread today

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That’s true.

An important point, for me, is that I don’t think that Apple and Google should be telling national governments what to do. I certainly don’t trust our government to respect my privacy, but at least they are in principle accountable. Apple and Google are not in any way accountable.

Ultimately a track and trace app needs to interface well with whatever the government is doing about manual tracking, which then includes the testing side. I’m certainly not going to trust an app, whoever it comes from, that just says I should isolate for two weeks based on someone who just thinks they have a bit of a cough.

There needs to be a fully integrated system that provides a risk range and clear indication of action to take. I want it to tell me to distance carefully for a few days if I’ve been in contact with someone with unconfirmed symptoms, for it to update this if the case is confirmed, and then I am fast-tracked for a test. This needs to link to a government system that pays my sick pay for those days of isolation.

There also needs to be a clear privacy element that ensures that data cannot be kept for longer than necessary, and cannot be used outside the stated purpose. It needs to be personally identifiable in the short term, sure, but after maybe 28 days it should be anonymised and after 3-12 months it should be deleted.

Apple and Google seem to have come up with something that works for the privacy side, but I think it’ll be essentially useless in practice.

If it isn’t useless now you can be sure it will be after we get it tailored

Actually it’s 100% the other way around.

  • with the caveat that we are still bound by the ECJ.
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Ironically, I would trust apple and Google more than this government

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We’re definitely in a hitler vs Stalin vs polpot situation

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can you summarise

So we’ve moved to Level 3 then.

I’m off to lick some doorknobs :+1:

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I sneezed in the flavoured oil aisle of Waitrose this morning, I have never seen people scatter that quickly…they were still queuing nicely outside though.

in other news 100s were queuing around the block at our local John Lewis in the rain. Mind you social distancing seemed a thing of the past. Perhaps they though raised umbrellas were a suitable barrier to snot, and sprayed oral fluids

Nothing cree-eepy or nonce-tastic about this photo whatsoever. No Sir, not a bit…

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Looks like the lady in the background is trying to socially distance one leg from the other…

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Just getting ready to scrap the 2 m rule and get the pubs open

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Bet it’s Handcock doing the briefing this afternoon. He’ll be bouncing to the lectern like Tigger with a rocket up his arse, lucky tie and giggling like a schoolgirl… All his hard work has paid off. Apart from all the dead folk.

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250% increase in holdimakers wanting to come to Cornwall, 185% to devon

Not sure how that’s going to work in small villages and towns like St Ives, Padstow, Polperro etc

Yet we still have a daily higher death rate than most of Europe put together

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Gotta say, I loathe the man, but no, there isn’t - just a deeply cynical chancer with the deaths of 60,000 people on his hands exploiting a publicity opportunity rather than doing any actual work…

got to get better for them, it was dead last summer when we were there