How much money is enough?

I have created several categories, which you can take the piss out of:

Wealthy
Several foreign holidays per year, new car every year or two, large house where you want to live, no mortgage, never consider your cash position when deciding what to do, eat out in really nice places, you struggle to find great investment opportunities

Well off
Nice holiday once or twice a year, a car you love that’s less than 3 years old, decent house with little or no mortgage, no real concerns if a big expense comes up, eat out weekly or whenever you fancy in decent local places, seven figure pension plan

Comfortable
Holiday in the UK, or overseas occasionally, nice car, the house is the right size for your family and you can afford the mortgage, you can afford the pub once or twice a week, eat out on special occasions, pension will be ok

Adequate
Holiday once a year, more if you can get a break with family, the kids share a room but you can just cover the mortgage/rent, you rarely eat or drink out but you always have food on the table, retirement should be ok at a push

Struggling
Holidays are rare/never, the upcoming rent increase is scary, you don’t eat out, if you meet friends at the pub you will preload and you have beans on toast more than you want to, crappy pension plans from some jobs in the past

Broken
No holidays, too much goes on rent, no car, you can’t go out, you need food banks to survive, no pension at all

I have a few questions. I was thinking of a poll, but actually that might not work. The issues for me are:

1 Where are you, and where do you think you should be?

2 What do you think should be the realistic expectation for most people in this country?

3 What level should be granted by benefits?

4 What factors have I got horribly wrong in categorisation above?

For me, my parents were “adequate” when I was there. I left and went from struggling to broken, I’m now comfortable and delighted about it.

Car car car car :roll_eyes:

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The important thing for me is that I don’t think that any working family should be struggling really, is there are two workers. And I hate that about our society, that there are so many.

Tell me you live in London without saying you live in London :grin:

Very strange criteria.
Holiday abroad doesnt make you well off, its not a measure of wealth.

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I can agree with that, I just wanted to try to get an expectation of what reasonable living standards might be. Some people have cars, some holidays, whatever.

What would your criteria be?

All too judgemental for my liking. I’m out.

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That’s kind of the opposite of what I’m trying to achieve tbh. Maybe it comes across badly.

I want to try to understand where we are, and where we should be, as a society. I think we fall well short of reasonable expectations, but without trying to define “reasonable expectations” it’s hard to have that conversation.

50 million.

I kind of think that the inability to discuss this kind of thing is a problem in our society

For what?
Judging other people by their financial means?

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No, the other way round. Trying to work out what an acceptable standard of living is, so that we can ensure that the overwhelmingly large proportion of people actually can live it.

You’re almost there.

W8! Wut! So our turn to run the cuntry’s come-around already! :open_mouth:

Trying to work out what an acceptable standard of living is…

Where all are happy and content and no one has to think of replying to this thread :pensive:

Well are you? :kissing_heart:

No!
Bollocks, just replied :rage:

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May i mumble bananas to the dogpatch.

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Of course. Don’t let me stop you

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7 figure pension is just well off, how many figures do your wealthy lot have?