Israel, Hamas, the Middle East

Err yeah, there have. The failure rate is documented at c5% of all launches. A particularly notorious one that killed c100 people was captured by an Arab TV news crew during the last round of fuckery in August last year. You will be shocked to hear that there was a good eight hours where Islamic Jihad blamed it on the IDF too.

So we’re clear, I’m not giving the IDF a pass here; they’re bastards and the business with that convoy being hit needs much more scrutiny. I am saying that people who should know better seem to take Hamas/Islamic Jihad statements at face value with next to no scrutiny and that’s very, very unwise.

Yep, see above ^

Wouldn’t trust ANY Western news source especially not a Mercan one.

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Mainstream media response last night arguably put lives in danger. It was shocking.

According to this there were thousands of people in that car park when the missile hit.

Apparently they were there because missiles were hitting other parts of the city and they thought they’d be safer at the hospital.

On the plus side (always try and look for one) at least everyone (except Hamas obvs) now agrees that deliberate targeting of civilians is a bad thing. It’s better than continuing to laud those who did target civilians in previous conflicts.

And still are in Ukraine

“Genocide is coming, genocide is coming…”

[to the tune of that annoying xmas cola advert]

So, children of Israel, what have we learned from history…?

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:weary::weary::weary:

We were only following orders.

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2006 but nothing has changed

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Not a country but what do Hamas say on this. Are they in favour of a ceasefire or a pause for humanitarian aid?

Considering the leadership are all in Qatar you’d hope the Qataris (supposedly our allies in the region) would be able to wield some influence there but besides getting a couple of hostages released they don’t seem to be doing much.

C4 news tonight were saying a Hamas delegation has pitched up in Moscow :man_shrugging:

They would wouldn’t they!

Why not call on Hamas to release the hostages? That’d probably help.

Actually it probably wouldn’t. They’d likely need to give themselves up too. But it’d be a good start.

This is an excellent piece. Well worth a few minutes of your time imo.

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Wall st. rubbing its grubby little hands in glee as 7% increase in aerospace and weapons trade anticipated by the Gaza conflict, every cloud and all that.

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Is this really a good idea, we messed up in Iraq, we messed up in Afghanistan, our cultural differences are immense, as presumably are the aims and objectives of such action.
From the Guardian.
**US and Israel considering peacekeeping force in Gaza **
The US and Israel are considering the possibility of a multinational force that could include American, UK, French troops in the Gaza Strip, in the event that Israeli forces are successful in ousting Hamas, according to a report.