Laser faff is your friend.
I’d missed this thread completely, but those speaks look fucking mint 
Who cares what the room looks like.
Well, except those light fittings… 
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They look so out of place since we removed the matching wallpaper 
The previous owner had some questionable taste.
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Don’t forget to do the ceiling. 
Or the violins.
Onto it Franc, I have nine panels in the shed for the ceiling. That is where the single biggest gains are to be had.
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Good to see you have it all planned. The vocals in the sound stage moved up when I experimented with treatment on my ceiling. Hope your sound stage also grows.
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it is quite revelatory Franc. The speakers and room boundaries no longer exist, the soundstage is boundless and each instrument has its own 3-dimensional space, It is utterly intoxicating to experience.
And I haven’t hung any panels from the ceiling, yet.
Over the years I have read many stories on forums of people saying they overdamped their room, but I now believe this was down to the posters speakers relying on the room reflections to reinforce their shortcomings. It seems like the more dampening I add to the room the more extraordinary the sound.
Lenard tune all of their systems in free air, I will have to trawl YouTube and see if they have posted any videos of their systems suspended playing at high levels outside,10-feet above the ground. Not many speakers have the even energy response to do that at any reasomnable volume.
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It’s hard not to be evangelical about room treatment, but once you start and get used to what it does it, it makes me wonder why everyone doesn’t do it. I can’t help thinking they are missing out and have no idea just how good their system really sounds.
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Yes agreed, it is too easy to become preachy but once you have experienced it you become too aware of all the time and money you wasted chasing small gains while ignoring the obvious.
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I do find its usefulness varies - currently I have a large room with a high ceiling, and it (the untreated room) works well - lots of built-in bookshelves, thick carpet, overfurnished… Adding to that lot makes next to no difference, hence the GIK panels are in the garage growing mold.
Previously, similar sized room really benefitted. And before that, very small room, but front-ported speakers that suited the room brilliantly, so no benefit from treatment.
Tried a couple of iterations of active electronic room compensation in the more problematic room - HATED both.
Of course, not all room nodes are necessarily harmful - a little bass lift, or midrange liveliness can really help some systems…
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Place we rented in Plymouth 15 or so years ago was as close to what I call a perfect room. Every pair of speakers sounded either very good to excellent,probably 20 or so different pairs in the time I lived there.
It was then I realised that the room is probably the most important factor to any hi fi.
Current stereo works pretty well in this new build room,though might see if the housing association can tweak the acoustics at some point.
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I would agree to a point, my speakers are by design quite room agnostic and even then, the improvements are still dramatic. Room shape/size/construction aside, I think it comes down to your speaker design, how much energy they are throwing into a room and whether they are designed to be reinforced by the room.
If you took many domestic speakers outside, lifted them 10ft in the air, and gave them a dose of Rammstein at 90dB they would sound dire and quite possibly die, as they need the reinforcement of the room to perform.
I tried a DEQX years ago and like you hated it, treat the cause, not the symptoms.
Yep, exceptions to every generalisation we care to make can always be summoned 
Same here, did it iron out a couple of rogue nodes , Yes it did, did it suck the life out of the presentation of the recording, Yes it did, a case of the cure was worse than the condition.
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The only time I’ve really played with room correction was when I reviewed that bit of kit that Jack used to sell - I forget the name of it now. It did definitely improve the overall sound in the room, albeit it then gave a presentation that was almost a bit too much “in your face”.
Anti-mode or something like that?
Sounds familiar, whatever I gained in overall ‘even-ness’ was countered by a very noticeable drop in overall resolution.
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