It’s another let’s rub shit all over you lot and remind you all of your place because you are so inferior to us. Self flattering bollox. Fucking ban private education and rid us of the toxic superiority complex it enforces.
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There’s nothing wrong with private education, rather address what’s wrong with public education.
let’s just beg to differ.
I can’t,
My parents gave up a lot to put me through private school. My dad worked in Baghdad in the 80’s purely because the company paid 75% of the school fees.
That was only because the comp at the the time was very rough and way below standards.
I’m immensely proud of what they did (and gave up) but branding all private education as a “superiority complex” is cunty
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The problem is not private education per se. it is the link between the privately educated and the offices of power. Eton cunts in No. 10, for example. That is fucked up, regardless of political party.
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It’s not a critasim of your education or what your parents sacrificed for you, you’ve lived that it can’t be taken away.
But things historically don’t get better without change.
Personally I’d rather live in a country where social diversity is a natural result from an equal education for all and is not down to some government policy dreamt up by privileged politicians with targets that are not equal and still never met.
The Finnish might not agree with that having banned fee paying schools years ago and since then rising to the best there is.’
If people really want to spend extra money on their children’s education we could adopt a South Korean system where fee paying schools are attended outside of state school hours as an addition to their education.
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I stand informed and corrected.
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Seems like a whole new approach
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There is no such thing as equal education. This is what annoyed me about labour and their insistence that everyone went to university.
We need tech colleges that teach trades and skills, unfortunately it’s something that gets looked down on because it’s not a ‘degree’
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I’ve worked with some Finnish teachers and for whole child wellbeing as well as academic achievement it is absolutely the way to go.
I really hate the way we cling on to the old establishment in this country. It is the root of all our troubles.
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Of course it’s possible to have equal education, it’s not about pupil achievement it’s about offering it to everyone.
Just mute me if it winds you up so much.
Are you trying to wind me up, not sure why that’s your target.
Yes of course that’s why I said let’s agree to differ.
No I’m not winding you up I just have a very different view of how to improve the education of our children from you.
You seem to believe I am criticising the recipients of a private education or those that now use it for their children. I’m not at all it’s the private/state system.
Have a read of the link @Waxy posted 
I went to private school. I think that at the very least they should have all charitable status removed; no tears would be shed by me if they were banned.
The first reason is equality - all kids should have the same opportunities. Private schools provide extra privilege to those that have rich parents; it fundamentally breaks the principles of equality.
Second is the problem that our private schools bake in a sense of superiority and entitlement in their pupils. It’s a huge problem in our society, and made much worse by these places.
Finally, the one way to ensure that state schools were improved would be to ensure that every politicians’ kids went there.
I do spend money of my kids’ education - my son has a private tutor, who spends an hour a week checking if he has any specific areas of concern, and challenging him on some fun bits. It’s money well spent - not least because it’s a mate who needs the cash as being a recording engineer has been a challenge for the last couple of years!
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Whatever is done,m one thing I would like to see changed is the centralised control of how children should be educated and the precise curriculum they should be taught. I think a diversity of curriculae (?) and examining Boards is no bad thing. As soon as a Government tells me that their way is both the way and the what that all children should taught, my alarms bells start ringing.
if a local school decides it had no need to teach RE, but does have a need to teach a wider citizenship set of lessons for a year, then so be it. If a school wants to teach Latin, knock your socks out. if it wants to focus on arts over sciences or the other way round at either GCSE or A level, fill yer boots.
Any exams taken by pupils to check the performance of the school and the teaching staff should be anonymous, the pupil should never need to know the results, there should be no need to revise and train pupils to pass these fucking things. They were never intended to be a measure of the pupil in the first place.
Parents most certainly should have a major voice on a BofG and large companies running Academies can fuck off.
One day politicians might stop pretending that education is a social leveller, lol, since when?
I agree. However that assumes that parents are informed enough and care enough to make a contribution. In my experience many (most?) aren’t and don’t.
I’m not sure I agree about schools having such a wide choice of what to teach. You often don’t get much choice about which school to attend, and the last thing you need is some maverick head teacher who believes kids should do six hours of meditation per day.
My main issue with the curriculum is that it’s so full - there isn’t much room for extra, life enriching, stuff. I quite like the idea of things like the bacc, where you study a wide range of subjects, which is strongly pushed now, but in some ways there’s just too much content.
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There’s the rub with democracy and public involvement. it’s no excuse to not do it though.
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I don’t think there would be that much freedom given to a Head, the BofG would sack them pretty damn quick. The curriculum is only so full because it is devised by and mandated by Whitehall, measured by them as if it somehow measured the educational attainment of children. Never trust a politician, nor a Civil Servant with that. It’s been an illness in education for decades, both political parties centralising everything for different reasons. We’ll end up like France, with every child learning the same at the same time on any given day anywhere in the world.
I seem to remember when the Finns took a close look at things like the balance between classroom learning and play amongst certain age groups they found that play was far more valuable than previously thought. Am sure Loo can point to all the evidence, but sure I remember their younger pupils in Junior schools spending half their time learning by play rather then being beaten to death by classrooms and exams.