I wonder if the book mentions that negligence of UK politics has caused more unnecessary deaths than Hitler inflicted on UK civilians in WW II.
(D and NL pro capita death rate is 30%-50% lower than UK.
UK WW II casualties were 37200. Currently UK Covid deaths is around 200000.
Even if definitions and counting methods can differ (WHO, John Hopkins, Wikipedia), the difference is still significant.
It makes me sad and outrageous.)
I bet it doesnât. You have to remember that in post truth politics if you repeat something often enough it becomes a truth and we all have been told ad nauseam by Johnson and ministers that âwe got all the big calls rightâ.
Yes, corruption and channeling millions to their mates.
Living in the fast lane while letting the bodies pile high.
The state of the UK now is fucking shocking, and the numbers dead likewise, but a more telling stat is deaths/million, where we appear a still-shameful 26th - hand-in-hand with the likes of Italy and Belgium.
That the incompetence and corruption of government is to blame for a higher-than-necessary number of deaths is unquestionable, but there seems no will to attempt to prosecute anyone, sadly.
The UK has had a higher per capita death rate than Germany or The Netherlands. Since youâre quantifying things, can you quantify how much of that was due to political negligence versus, say, demographics, pre-existing state-of-health, any differences in societiesâ tendency to comply with instructions, luck (the vaccines came a lot earlier and were very much more effective than experts believed possible) and a load of other factors, all of which will have contributed to differences in death rates.
I believe that the government did not get all of the big calls right. But I admit that thatâs just my belief. I donât have rock-hard data that I can use to prove it (which may also address @Mrs_Maureen_OPinion 's point about why no-oneâs been prosecuted). I suspect that this is one of those situations where this
is particularly true.
Neither opposing politicians nor the electorate seem to care.
Or HNS related, the record 5 million NHS waiting list has grown to over 7 million.
Nobody seem to care enough to stop that, if news breaks that it is over 8 million, everybody just carries on. The focus is on wages only (which is important *) but not the catastrophic health policy of the UK.
(* our 14 and 18 year old daughters get EUR 8-10 per hour for tutoring other school kids. On one occasion the eldest even got 20. While NHS nurses do GBP 10-11. It show not only a difference in appreciation for work done, but an utter contempt for all the people in the UK health care.)
Those of us with two braincells to rub together know about this, and way the fuck more besides, we deplore it, and would like to shut the cunts responsible for it up in a big wicker sculpture of Maggie Thatcher and watch those motherfuckers burnâŚ
However, sadly, reality is not like that - reality is a LOT more like Graemeâs comments re complexity and attributability, to which you must add that those responsible have complete control of law-enforcement and propaganda, while the populace is a majority of lazy, thick, pig-ignorant, apathetic, disenfranchised and oftentimes scared cattle who just obey what the perpetual onslaught of right-biased media tells them to obey; itâs Stockholm Syndrome for a whole nationâŚ
I often wonder if the UKâs ended-up like it is because we sent two entire generations of our best and brightest young men off to be slaughtered in two world warsâŚ? But I digress. And Iâm always wrong. About everything.
I suspect youâre reading the bandings incorrectly. In the NHS a newly qualified B5 nurse will be on something like ÂŁ14 /hr rising to ÂŁ17 at top of the band. A senior nurse on B6 will start ÂŁ17.25 and reach about ÂŁ21 /hr at the top of band.
Youâre absolutely right, it is very difficult to pinpoint to any singular factor and get to a person that is accountable for that and can be prosecuted.
But even if it were possible in a very specific and limited way, accountability and prosecution does not seem to get together in todayâs UK.
Iâm just very saddened that holistically, in relation to Covid, my beloved UK performed more like an eastern European country than an western one.
Thanks, happy to see I got the numbers wrong, hope NHS personnel will get what they really deserve.
Sister in laws mum was in hospital just before Xmas with food poisoning.
Sounded pretty awful in there,she had bad squirts and vomit which was just left on the floor,in the end my sil cleaned it up on her visit.
There was numerous other things that went wrong.
It sounds like the system is ready to break
What they really deserve is a lot more colleagues. Better pay would attract more people, as would re-jigging the financial arrangements for all lower-paid people to give them some protection against the current scary levels of inflation.
Yes to more colleagues. Healthcare is about 75% people based, and adequate safe clinical cover is just about the minimum staffing level and in most wards it is not even that.
To be entirely honest before better pay Iâd sort the ridiculous artificial market system which places every NHS organisation in fictitious debt, and which in turn encourages each one to not fill vacancies and run services on a skeleton crew to satisfy this false notion of good financial housekeeping.
In the current system, putting up wages will only slide more debt into the provider and disincentivise recruitment even further.
Every nurse, doctor, AHP I speak with says yes more take home would be great but no point if the job is untenable because there arenât enough people to safely run things. This is why so many are at the end of their tether and thinking of quitting. The strikes are not really about pay, theyâre a last cry for help.
Hear, hear.
I only wonder why Starmer was added.
Weâd be ÂŁ30bn better-off if it really hadnâtâŚ
