The Leaf has gone up to £20. Fuming here. 
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£0 and £30 here, for our cars.
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What are they?
Five fucking pounds increase here. Won’t even let me split £35 into two payments.
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OK, so, figures were correct for last year, but, on checking just now, seems that the Renault Captur eco 2 diesel goes from £0 to £20 and the Fiat 500 Pop goes from £30 - £35 respectively, next year 
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It is of course offset by fuel costs of 4p per mile and a bi-annual main dealer service costs £200.
Thats why (as a home charging ev driver) I have no problem chucking £200 a year into the pot.
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Oooo, it does look very good. Which trim level did you go for?
Ultra P12, fully loaded with the a “how fucking much, you robbing bastards?” towbar
Towbar aside, that pricing is…not horrendous.
Think I’ve been scorched by the list price of my Beemer.
The Chinese brands must be piling the heat on and driving prices down. If they have nailed the software it looks a belter.
It’s a big IF, and there are a few less than glowing reviews of the 800v architecture on the ES90 not to mention thet nightmare that is the EX90) ………….. but it’s just so damn Scandi Sexy vs the BMW and MB that we (AKA she) couldnt resist. Which I knew
Pricing for company leasing is even more competetive (and to be fair, the BMW and slightly less so GLC) prices are really sharp - there’s no fig leaf for me now that Zeekr and what have you are chucking out such fantastic cars two a penny for half a penny
Of course, Zeekr and co. have a big presence in Euroland etc. Forgot about that. Saw a lot of city-centre sales centres in Copenhagen and more recently, Amsterdam.
We were in Vienna a few weeks back and there were some Chinese and South Korean brands down there which we don’t have here in .scandi - they looked proper nice. Car market is changing so lightning fast, and the VAG offferings are very quickly looking like look utter dogshit
I went past Bristol Street Motors in Worcester the other day, they don’t seem to be a Ford dealership anymore, just Vertu.
Help! A friend of mine has just ordered an Ioniq 5 through Motability and we’re trying to make sure he sets up charging in the smartest way from day one.
Is anyone here currently on Motability with an EV and willing to share their experience?
Specifically interested in:
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The Motability-supplied home charger — was it the right choice?
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Which energy tariff you’re using and whether it’s working well in practice
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Whether Hyundai’s Charge myHyundai / Plug & Charge is actually useful or just marketing
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How you handle occasional motorway trips — subscriptions vs pay-as-you-go
He won’t be doing loads of long trips, so priority is cheap, simple home charging with sensible backup options when needed.
Any real-world advice (good or bad) would be hugely appreciated.We’re lucky in DK to have some baging options for charging , so it’s not nearly the faff that I notice it being from reading this thread
In the typical forum style of discourse rather than utility…
One of the very many incredibly annoying things about my (non-5) Ioniq was how the “find your nearest charger” system built in to the car could entirely reliably guide you to a 3kW charger, but never to a 50+kW rapid charger. They just weren’t in its database.
It became a joke to us: “sure, we could charge here for nine hours, the kids will love it”, but it meant that you simply needed a copilot for long journeys.
More on topic, the ‘charge my Hyundai’ thing I looked at when I considered a 5, and it clearly needed a lot of work four years ago in terms of locating a nearby charger that was fast, but it did give decent prices at many of the major ones like Ionity etc.
Less on topic, I have a friend who has an Ioniq 5. They love it but have scratched it at least half a dozen times getting it into their garage, once quite badly. This is entirely on them, the whole parking view system seemed fine to me!
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Couple of thoughts in the context of Motability which may be slightly tangential:
It might be worth making sure that the hone charger is tethered rather than requiring the car’s cable each time, from a point of view of the faff required.
Tariff may depend on how tech savvy the friend is, Intelligent does require app interaction each time whereas a simple thing like Go means you can just set a schedule and plug on or not.
Motorway charging: if it is occasional then just go for PAYG. However hoiking a big DC charging cable around is some effort for everyone let alone a Motability user (a Fully Charged panel talk on accessibility did talk about this very thing) and disabled charging spaces are not very common so it may be worth aiming for chargers at manned petrol stations to get assistance if needed.
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Turns out Mrs C’s company car lease is 48 months, not 36. Bugger. No early exit, so the EX60 move will be sitting tight, letting others deal with launch niggles, and getting in later than planned.
Side question: model choice. We’d specced the top version with ~500-mile range, but that’s a 4.5-hour stint between charges. In reality, the Audi does ~3.5 hours before legs, seats and bladders all demand a stop. Paying a chunk more per month for range we’d almost never use feels… daft.
How much range is ‘too much’ for you lot
Struggle to care past 200-250 miles as long as you can charge at 100+kw out and about.
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DId you end up with an Enyaq?