I’d like to see governments incentivise keeping cars on the road longer as against replacing them with new cars and the associated impact of manufacture. I’d also like to see the same similar incentives for EV manufacturers to design and build EVs with longer serviceable lifespans and the ability to keep them updated and on the road for much longer.
Yes, when the feed in tariff first came in (40p/kWh I think). They were still worth it over the lifespan when we got them at the end rate of the scheme, not sure how it works with the latest guarantee.
Yes, tax on cars that already exist shouldn’t be designed to push people to new EVs. They (existing cars) should be driven into the ground.
Over and unwarranted consumption is the behaviour that incentives need to tackle.
Don’t really follow that. The average age of a car in the UK before being scrapped is 14 years.
Norway has the most expensive cars and they last 18.4 years.
But there are advantages to modern cars beyond co2 emissions. Safety, particle emissions, economic factors such as how many people the industry employs.
To phase out cars and car use you cant just tax the shit out of it, we need decent public transport everywhere.
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That needed implementing ten years ago. Personally I’d like to see a real policy like stopping sales of all new ice cars within a year followed by a time limited removal of existing ice cars.
Better do it now than have a panic reaction policy.
Yeah tru dat.
We’re going to Birmingham tomorrow £35 in petrol and parking or £70 for 2 train tickets. Totally arese about face
Basically we’re fucked.
We’ve just had the best 30yrs. Its down hill from here…
That’s what middle aged people always say. I give the kids more credit.
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The fuck is up with you? You seem disconcertingly rational, did you hit your head?
I’m just not sure adding 20k to the price of a car to make them last an extra 4 years is worth while vs the other implications of having a bunch of old cars kept on the road.
Florida was swarming with old cars, some in the most horrific state. Do not want.
Just stick a £50k luxury tax on every car over £100k. Easy.
Afaik Florida does not require cars to have annual emission tests (abolished in the 90s iirc) or any form of safety / mot type test. Hence heaps of shit on the road
But having yearly safety/mot/emissions is exactly what takes cars off the road in the UK. Unless you can somehow reduce the cost of repair, which I’m not convinced is possible.
Norway has massively expensive cars, so people spend more keeping them going, but as pointed out, its only by a few years, hardly seems worth it.
Tbh I have lost track of the conversation.
Don’t worry, it’s just your age 
The argument was cars should be taxed at sale and should be kept on the road longer. Define longer, why isn’t 14 years on average long enough?
If you make the typical car more expensive it seems to me you just move the burden of keeping it on the road longer down the line, I don’t think you will get the typical new car buy to keep them any longer no matter how much they cost.
An electric car covers its environmental cost of manufacture in 6-8 years, so again, why keep a 15 year old car going what, another 10 years?
No matter how much you incentivise longer lasting cars certain components wear, suspension, rubber components, its going to stop being economical at some point.
Seems to me making cars more expensive in general would just disproportionally effect people who already struggle.
Free EVs all round. 
I’m going out for a curry.
I hope its vegan.
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I’m going out to watch Pete eat chicken then 1917. I’m not sure which will be the more unpleasant.
With vegetation flown half way round the world.on a plane.
Company car tax rates are starting to push people away from diesels.
I reckon battery powered car have a few years left until something else becomes slightly cheaper. Maybe H2. Fuck nose. I ain’t mystic Mark.
I quite like my not quite ev. Does about 55ish depending on how often I can charge it. Bit dull, bit nice enough car.