The shit that does merit its own thread

Impressive

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@MonitorGold10 has been busy :muscle:

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Looks more roadworthy than the shite they give him to drive! :laughing:

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I have one that has been bashed so hard that the headlamp is out of alignment.

When reported, I was told it’s OK aa long as the panels aren’t falling off…

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Handy now that the long summer nights are here :roll_eyes:

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You’re as drunk as I am!

Cheers!

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Alas it’s the heavy co-codamol I’m on right now. Haven’t had a drink all week :sob:
I salute you though in your early morning endeavour to erase the rest of the day. Bravo :muscle::clap::clap::clap::clap:

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Is this just trolling or are their plugs actually better?

[Edit - I just noticed this account is a troll one (quite funny). I deleted the post but now restoring in light of @Mrs_Maureen_OPinion kind and informative reply.]

https://x.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1712235878087573561?t=_j00csR6lUj68k3fA4DrNQ&s=03

They’re actually inferior - easier to get foreign bodies into the outlets, the round pins make poorer contact, and they have less current (over)capacity - everything about the UK plug design is knowingly and deliberately over-engineered, they are safer and more reliable.

We’re also not actually voltage homologated with Europe - most of which is ~220VAC (parts as low as 200VAC); while we average 240VAC (and as high as 255VAC in places). [Side note: most cheap Chinese electricals - esp anything with a transformer - are rated for 220VAC, which is why it often doesn’t last very long or even goes on fire…]

The yank stuff is worse again, with random admixtures of Earthed and non-Earthed outlets available there, especially in older properties.

Audiophools get fooled by the 15A ratings - especially of US stuff: where it only applies to 100-120VAC; double the voltage and you halve the current rating… And then there’s the potential insurance-invalidation issue using non-UK mains kit…

UK 13A plugs/sockets have a very good current overhead: back when I was making and retailing mains accessories, I used to test everything with mixed reactive/inductive loads up to ~33A in total (~150% overload) from the wall: sockets and plugs would get warm, but never more.

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He’s an idiot, the UK 3 pin plug is probably the best and safest design of any plug.

The UK plug was designed so that the first pin that makes contact is the earth.

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No you don’t. Resistive heating will be that same whether it’s on a 240V or 110V circuit and that’s what matters for the current rating.

The rest I agree with, UK plugs are far, far superior. Unless you stand on one.

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While I agree that electrickey - like honey badger - DGAF, for safety purposes (e.g. specifying a suitable fuse), then that is the rule-of-thumb.

It is for devices that consume power, but not for things like plugs which don’t (except for parasitic losses). And it comes down to I^2 x R

Where voltage comes into it is whether the plug insulation can safely tolerate 240V (US plugs, Euro are fine), but again, you cannot derate using a constant power calc. to trade current for voltage rating.

A quick Google search, looks like 70 died in UK homes from electrical incidents of all types, less than 30 in Germany. They put their improvement over time to the roll out of MCBs and RCDs (RCBOs these days).

Just used RCBOs in the Camper, will certainly be fitting them in my next house. No more single RCD tripping every socket, pissed off with that.

just means there are 40 more idiots in the UK who stick forks into plug sockets

That sounded like a much bigger number than I expected so I had a quick Google too. Sure enough right at the top it chucked up a snippet which said

Faulty electrical equipment and sockets cause approximately 70 deaths and 350,000 injuries in UK homes every year (RHA, 2022).

Probing slightly more deeply, however, the site that that comes from seems to be an online wholesaler based in Northern Ireland who’s selling stuff to electricians. I can’t find out what the reference relates to - the very large majority of RHA pages that Google returns are either for the Road Haulage Association or for various Rural Housing Associations.

More traceable data on electric shock deaths can be found from the Office for National Statistics. Their reply to an FOI request says that on average for the period 2013-2020 16 people a year died from electric shock across all locations - homes, workplaces and everywhere else that people spend time. That was for England and Wales. Scaling that up by population (assuming the Jocks and Paddys are no more or less likely to fry themselves than the Taffs or the, er, Rosbifs) gets you to an average of 18 UK electrocutions per year. Only a fraction of those would have happened at home.

Sorting out the electrical fire deaths is more complex.The raw data exists and is here. Electrical Safety First have had a go at cooking it but I can’t really understand their answers. For whatever they’re worth though they say 11 fire deaths from electrical distribution and 15 from other electrical appliances. Scaling for Scot+NI gets us to 29 total. I think that’s domestic deaths only. Assuming it’s for just 1 year* (is it ?) then shocks (a fraction of 18) and fires (maybe 29) come to perhaps 40 UK domestic electrical deaths per year.

Without knowing anything about the German number (fewer than 30) I can’t tell if the Krauts’ electrics are significantly safer than ours or not. If fewer of them die then maybe that’s simply because their housing stock is newer so they have more smoke alarms and can escape more easily if there is a blaze.

*If so then it’s not 2017 when a single faulty tumble drier burned/asphyxiated 72 poor souls to death in Grenfell Tower.

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I’ve achieved a brilliant thing. Gonna make billions!

I can be in two places at once!

Croydonshire driving a bus past an intending passenger and walking to meet up with friends for a day out at a Classic Car meet!

Fucking amazing skill, innit! :raised_hands: :raised_hands: :raised_hands:

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Gaza: Britons told to be ready in case Rafah border crossing opens

because the FCDO doesn’t give two fucks about your welfare, you’re on your own.

Conspiracy bingo at the bus stop this morning :laughing:

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