Tech bros are just fucking awful.
Bloody odd yacht that thing. First picture I saw it looked like some kind of AI generated image - the crew looked way too small realtive to the rigging. The boom was so massive it looks like you could walk upright in it!
Correspondingly, the keel seems undersized -
How to Design an Excessively Top-Heavy Boat 101…
That’s because there’s either no keel fitted in that photo or the keel is up.
Boat that size would/should have a 20ft keel with a few+ tonnes of lead.
I’m slightly surprised by the dimensions of some of the yachts I’ve worked on - they’re almost mini apartment blocks in terms of form factor (basically getting maximum square meters of space into the length), but still seemingly maintaining quite shallow draughts. That said, the ones I was on were never in anything remotely choppy, not sure how they’d have been in that sort of weather.
Given what we covered on the STCW qualification, I’d also be pretty surprised if they find any more survivors at this point.
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A boat that size perhaps should have a 20’ keel, and might do if it was a pure sailboat, but these things are vast ‘motorsailers’, and I suspect are a bit compromised in design to (as Jon says) limit draught and make more places accessible.
I suspect all that was missing (if anything) was the cast-iron counterweight as per this smaller Perini Navi design -
Enough for most conditions, but evidently nothing like enough once her mast was in the water and presumably some doors / windows / vents left open…
No-one’s coming up alive from 50m now.
It has a minimum draft of 4.05 meters, with the keel up, and a maximum of 9.83 meters , and when fully loaded weighs 543.4 tons.
Looks like it had a 20ft keel.
Presume it had the keel down as it wasn’t in the harbor and was at anchor.
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I suspect more than anything Bayesian was caught-out unprepared - get everything battened down, engines on and nose to the wind and she probably would have lost her mast at most.
Not convinced she was hit directly by a waterspout either - it was pitch black small hours of the morning, hard to see how anyone would have seen it.
Wonder if it was up or down? Honestly surprised it’s retractable - take-up a lot space inside.
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just edited as you posted that.
I would think it was down as it was at anchor and outside the harbor. News said it was due to stay there for a few days.
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It’s probably worth pointing out that a lot of these boats don’t drill properly for emergencies, and for aesthetic reasons, lots of things like life belts etc have covers on that A. mean they don’t stand out and B. require extra steps to actually be able to use them. I’ve heard some absolute horror stories about negligent approaches to safety, despite the SOLAS regs being pretty stringent and non-negociable if you are making a boat available for charter (if it’s a purely private boat that never gets rented out there’s some leeway).
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Likely this, if it had a knockdown with the hatches open it would have flooded really quickly
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If the boat was sealed then it would self right if flattened.
That yacht was designed and built by a very competent company and met all the insurance requirements. It was also built to sail and would be impossible to point to windward without an appropriate keel,
Internet knows more about yacht design and keel sizes than marine design architects and engineers of course.
There is a lot of debate about why it sank so quickly though, only light winds were forecast so it was probably due to open hatches and open bulkheads etc.
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Tampering of some design , must be near the top of the list for a lot of the reasons you list
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Not wildly surprised to read this. Many owners will be convinced of their own and their yacht’s invincibility, plus how many will be aware of how extraordinary the extremes of weather can be, nor how fast they change…?
There was another boat moored(?) right near it which survived fine. They said they had a surprise when they woke up and the boat behind them was gone. They were the ones who picked up the survivors in the life rafts.
Some witness reports say the boat tipped over and then sank pretty quickly - sounds like hatches must have been left open.
BTW not just Lynch but chairman of Morgan Stanley is missing and a senior guy at Clifford Chance.
From the interview with the captain, I think they were on anchor, but using it as a way of riding at the storm, rather than moored up.
That’s it I’m not reading pfm anymore.
Fucking batshit loons are now seriously arguing that the yacht sinking and Chamberlin being killed by a car are actually assassinations 
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You should ask Tony to close your account (can’t imagine he’ll be wildly reluctant…) - PFM is bad for your mental health.
Then again, there’s always Maverick…
Or better still, Subjectivist…
Tony banned me 2 yrs ago, used to have a look at the classifieds and a giggle at the rather funny “anyone recommend a non binary environmentally friendly trouser press” type threads but recently it’s gone full potato in the off-topic area.
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At 50m depth wouldn’t suprise me if that’s salvaged.