North London line did use the 501’s until the 313’s came along. Never got a train into Broad Street station, although I do remember the station before it closed.
I had moved down from Manchester where most of our local trains were noisy/smelly first generation DMU’s.
That’s interesting; early memories of a holiday in Wales now. To my 5 years old ears, bloody noisy and smelly.
Might have been a class 101.
Anyhoo; those 313 types musy have been like a fucking spaceship compared to the previous rolling stock!
Yes and no re 501 vs 313. Although more modern the seats on the 501 were much more comfortable compared to the very thin 313. However I hear the 700 and similar ironing board seats are even worse.
Local train crash for local people:
Tallington, 1953, ex-WD 8F 2-8-0 overshot buffers and sand trap! Driver on ex-WD night-fighter amphetamines I suspect! Freight only, no injuries.
Been there, they do a knockout green beer that’s around 12%
They also come in normal and narrow versions. The later built for the Hastings Line which required narrower stock at the time.
Was that something to do with one (or more) of the tunnels on the line - think it was mentioned further up the thread?
Yes it was basically dodgy builders. Some of the tunnels were built with less brick rings than needed, this led to some collapses and resulted in extra rings having to be built. As a result this restricted the loading gauge, and hence the need for dedicated stock.
In the 1980s some of the tunnels were singled tracked which allowed normal stock to use the line.
BR had the 33/2 and the 201,202 and 204 DEMU built especially for the line. About 11 inches narrower than standard stock.
Believe it when I see it. It would have to be much cheaper than Eurostar, but have decent frequency to attract passengers. Just can’t see that happening. Also suspect SNCF who I think own most of Eurostar have deep enough pockets to kill any new supplier with a deep discounting.