I love the Standards in general, something very compelling about the way they peaked the technology - decently more efficient and less labour intensive than their predecessors.
I do wish they had made a 5MT tank, and no doubt it was considered - fairly easy to do just what they did with the larger of the two tendered 4MTs, but diesel already had its feet under the table…
Of course had Oliver Bulleid pursued talk of a tank version of the Q1, we would have had an actual 5MT tank… ![]()
Big mistake not to extend it south of Brixton.
The Victoria Line ending at Croydon would have made a huge difference.
You’re so right, it was 4MT. I agree the Standards overall were excellent, and I understand had been expected to be around until circa 1981. I also have a soft spot for the Q1s
Incredible
Superb - not seen that layout in the flesh, but I know enough to know it’s taken a LOT of work to get it looking as good as it does, never mind coordinating onboard sound with ambient sound!
Wow, talk about insight. No wonder you’ve reached the dizzy heights you have
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Looks more comfortable than most of the Satf London trains.
This is a Ruston-Paxman 16RK3CT:
Which is an 127 litre V16 four-stroke twin-turbo diesel engine, which outputs about 3,500hp at 800rpm and weighs around 16 tonnes… It used to power one of these:
Which is a Class 56 diesel locomotive, which weighs around 125 tonnes.
This one was torn from the guts of one of those
in order to power one of these
*
Which is a Class D16/1 diesel designed by Oliver Bulleid George Ivatt ( [also] much better known for steam locos), which first saw the light of day in 1947 - making it the grandaddy of the many, many later designs of diesel loco we used to build in this cuntry.
Only two were ever made and they were both scrapped 60 years ago, so some Mad People are building a new one from scratch.
Which is nice.
*That was plan A, the Mad People are on plan B now, where they use one of the ancient, weedy engines that 10000 and 10001 originally had, so the R-P V16 is off to pastures new. Which is also nice.
**Edited for Rongnesses
I think the LMS Twins were actually a Ivatt design, although Bullied did design some early diesels. Although I agree mad but great someone is trying to replicate one. Boggies I think came from a EM2 which is a whole another worm hole, with a Dutch twist.
Yes! Of course you’re right - all Bulleid’s non-steam stuff looked similarly ugly and unlike anything that came later! D16/2 were his…
Rule of trains: if it has ever existed, someone somewhere will have a major nostalgia blowout about it. Including, for some reasons, Pacers and the single worst loco ever made in this country.
But the bogie design and I think other elements did live on in the Class 40, one my favourites as we saw most of them in and around Manchester in my youth. Bogies also ended up on the various flavours of Peaks and now live on as Beilhack snow ploughs.
I don’t mind them, and I think one survives. They were built by Clayton but as diesel hydraulics fell out of favour along with Hymac, Warships and Westerns when the BR Board wanted to standardise. Those were better looking and had some proper industrial designers involved. Warship basically shrunken version of German V200.
Clayton also built a version of the Class 17 with Rolls Royce engines, that didn’t sell a single locomotive and I think was also very unreliable.






