Armchair politics

You’re ‘guessing’ that? Are you one of them? :grinning:

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I sometimes wonder how much Charles/George VII can do to change that.

I’m afraid that while I dislike UKIP intensely I wouldn’t question their right to hold seats in the HoC under PR. The Greens and Lib Dem’s are disadvantaged similarly. Any system that yields majority on 30-40% of the poll is FUBAR by definition.

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Is it worse than a hung parliament though ?

VB

Yes, if the Hung Parliament was what the median voter was after.

The median voter chose Brexit.

VB

Don’t conflate elections with referenda there’s a good chap. :grin:

The issues with the referendum are legion, but the execution of the vote was fine.

It wasn’t a comment about the process. It was a comment about the voters, in particular what they choose when they’re presented with options which are inevitably very much narrower than the complexity of their wants and needs.

I suspect that very few voters are after a hung parliament. What they are after when they vote UKIP or Green or for the independent who’s trying to stop their local A&E being closed is to send a message to the party which forms the government that there are issues which are important to them (immigration, environmental sustainability, prompt extraction of the Lego piece in little Johnny’s left nostril). If they’re lucky the governing party will hear that message and act on it. They don’t want there to be the sort of mess caused by the DUP actually having any real power. They want a stable single-party government which is nervous about its small majority and therefore inclined to focus on the voters’ best interests.

Just my two penn’orth of course. I once lived for a while in a country where a sizeable fraction of the electorate really did want to cripple their government.

VB

Love the analogy on the radio earlier.like your crack dealer turning up at xmas to give you half an hours counselling

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That was decided by a completely independent review panel so they had to accept the recommended increase… so that’s all right then

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Yea, funny how said politicians wont let the public sector have an independent review body for pay. squadies and coppers aside.

There is supposedly one for teachers. This year’s recommendation was ignored, next year’s has basically been told to not spend any money.

How is the govt supposed to fund the MP’s pay rise if the money is frittered away on teachers, police, nurses and the forces.

Some of you are so selfish and inconsiderate.

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Exactly. Feckin’ Socialists !

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Easy, just raid the Armed Forces and Emergency Services pension fund, flog off “peripheral” bits of the NHS and then appoint yet more companies that are heavily invested in by senior Tories to aggressively adjudicate on whether people who are, by any sensible definition, unable to work due to health issues, are actually able to, by the very loosest definition, work. Further incentivise those companies with bonuses related to the amount of people they remove from the benefits system. But, to make the deal even sweeter, absolutely do not penalise them for the people they drive to suicide, because then they have saved the government a metric fuckton of money, if you extrapolate the NHS and Pension costs…:face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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When your heroes die in front of you.

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Hmmm, 2:31 AM. He was pissed.