Bond - Who's next?

Whoops, yeah.

Ok.
Take the word woke out of my posts then. That’s the bit you are all hung up on.

I’ll rephrase. Happily.
Do you want to see a Bond cleaned up!? A model, modern man with humility and respect.
Or do you want him to retain some badness. Some underlying faults and darkness.

I like that fact he isn’t a clean cut hero. I don’t agree with his vices as my own virtues, but I think he’s more complex and interesting for the dilemmas inside him.

That’s the point I’m (badly) making. I really don’t want to cloud this with the argument about one word.

Not sure I’d buy the popcorn if the strap line of the next Bond film was ā€œLicensed to take the moral highgroundā€.

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So a bad ass man is ok but bad ass woman not ok. Right, got it.

I explained that very clearly above. I agree with the producers that it’s a superb idea, but not as part of this particular franchise.
I happen to have a lot of time for female secret agents.

Only to yourself

Now you are trolling. And it’s undermining your point. That you made 17 times.
The female producer of the film shares my sentiments and it’s clear in the article I linked. I’m done with this bit!

I’ve just finished watching a series called ā€œFool Me Onceā€. It attempts to cast its female lead into the sort of role more often occupied by the likes of Tom Cruise (may Satan crush his scrotal sac for all eternity). This is dandy. What isn’t dandy is that the whole thing was fucking awful: cringe-makingly badly written, shakily acted, and more wooden than Pinnochio’s first lie-boner. I mention this mainly becase I needed to get it off my chest, but also because it desonstrates that there are already action-hero roles out there for women - with new ones appearing all the time. Some of them are even good: e.g. few action heroes have kicked arse harder than Sigourney Weaver’s Ripley - so it’s clearly possible to write good, convincing female protagonists and create beloved genre classics in the process - something the world was demonstrably ready for way-back in 1979.

So why do we want to crowbar a woman into Bond’s awkwardly-fitting skin? What exactly does that achieve? Most especially with a series that’s already absolutely played-out? It’s fucking tokenism: it’s not going to achieve anything except a bunch of highly-paid film execs having a nice old round of mutual backslapping and high-fiving. Art doesn’t change anything of importance. It never has, and it never will. Real opportunity does that. Bond is already marginal in the 2020s - ā€œBond, But With Tits This Timeā€ is going to be a career killer for everyone involved. Anyone remember the 2016 ā€˜Ghostbusters’ for anything except the foaming misogyny it generated? Of course not, because it was also an awkward, self-satisfied, crowbarred sack of shit that bombed in every market.

By all means make an innovative series of films pitting a female superspy against a slew of evil supervillains - but don’t half-arse it rehashing some tired old 1950s tropes - do it from scratch and make it original, innovative, fresh, witty, thrilling, dashing, dangeous, and something (anything!) other than old people trying to get down with the fucking kids by being iconoclastic. If ā€˜woke’ is anything, it’s that - a bunch of virtue-signalling tryhards making it all about Them.

TBH, the more I think about it, the more I think Bond should be put-down for good. The World’s moved-on and left the whole thing behind. Britain can barely afford fucking traffic wardens, never mind superspies…

Columbiana, Salt, Anna, Atomic blond, Red sparrow, Lara croft off the top of my head, loose point being there’s a wheelbarrow full of ā€˜badass’ killer female flicks out there … I’m not sure Jamellia Bond would be that groundbreaking?. I’d watch it though.

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All these old men into Bond-age. Let loose the shackles of your childhood hero-worshipping. Let him die.

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What should grown ups be watching?

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Bond-age is more enthralling.

Good question. The idea of white male heroes defeating an evil empire while conquering the local women is all a bit passƩ now, so I am off to watch Dune.

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I love the old bonds and think Craig while a decent actor was a shit bond with shit plots.
Rebooting aback to the 50’s would be a great idea.

What the world needs is a Modesty Blaise franchise. The Tarantino produced ā€˜my name is modesty’ was excellent but unknown. A proper female anti hero.

As I said in another thread the lead character from The Gentlemen series on Netflix would make a cracking bond. Theo James.

No.

He’s good in The Gentleman because of various reasons, none of which give him the presence to play Bond.

And Craig was an excellent Bond.

I disagree but opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

Craig was wishy washy, Bond is only ever as good as his villains and Craig’s were frankly crap. None were ever actually menacing except maybe Mads in Casino Royal… not coincidentally Craig’s best bond film.
Blofeld bonds brother who he totally forgot about? Blame the writers for that one but still a sorry excuse for a bad guy. Then you had a totally wasted Javier Bardem, nerdy water dude and that last guy with the poison garden. None had any actual menace which meant Bond had little to push against. Ffs Matt Lucas in Polar utterly obliterated any recent Bond villain. Andy Serkis in Luther: Fallen Sun was better.
Goldfinger, Kleb, No, Zorin bad guys make Bond.

Just my asshole er opinion.

I have to agree with the sentiment here - The bad guy that killed the last bond looked like he needed a hug. Meglomaniacs who want to conquer the world should look and act like

…With a murderous henchman avec deadly gimmick.

The best Bond bad guy by far:
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