Covfaffe - the road to despair, calling at futility and disappointment

Ordered a V60 to try this stuff

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Nice!

Which method you going to use?

Going to try Hoffman
V60 is new to me so nothing to compare to.

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It’s rather light of faff too.

I prefer 40/60 Tetsu Kasuya, but it requires a really coarse grind and a bit more faff and time. But it’s easy to tailor the flavour of it when you get the grind close.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1zRvsq9viPc3GBoXIiMrT7Cebs_4elUDz/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msexcel

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I’ll try both

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I’m a coffee idiot so don’t take my word for anything but I started with Hoffman’s method (btw he has two slightly different ones, if you search his videos on YT) thinking it was easier than Kasuya - but having tried Kasuya, found it really wasn’t that much more faff and gave much better results. I haven’t looked back.

I’m still not sure I’m getting the best out of it (currently trying the below, which doesn’t taste all that great to me despite the lovely sounding description) but it does give me better tasting coffee than Hoffman.

I don’t like the Hoffman method, he likes his coffee lighter roasted and too weak tasting for me and loses too much body from the taste.

The 40/60 Kasuya works really well especially in the V60
The April method is also very good and far more consistent
The Osmotic Flow method gives the most intense and strong flavour with the most body but takes a few goes to get it right so if the coffee is expensive best not to try it out until you can do it properly and you enjoy the coffee it makes
I also find the single pour from Tales coffee and one Kasuya has also come with can be very good.

So many methods out there, worth trying if you have the spare coffee.

Kasuya for me

Looks a lot of faff for an 0700 wet.

Just tried that as I had not seen it before.
I used the same grind as I use for Kasuya and it was very different.
It is certainly intense and I enjoyed it, but doesn’t capture the flavour profile of a light roast in the same way as Kasuya.
Maybe I will use the Osmotic flow for the first cup in the morning :grinning:

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I’m not so keen on light roasts, at the moment, and mainly have medium roasts. I’v always preferred coffee this way I haven’t really known about the lighter and more fruity flavours until I came back to brewing coffee this way rather then just putting it in a filter machine.

Cafec make a filter specifically for this method and they did a very good video on youtube as well.

I don’t use it all the time as I do find the Kasuya method better with some beans/dripper combo, especially the Torch Mountain.

I do enjoy that you can change the flavour profile depending on what you fancy just by changing the pour.

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I wasn’t really impressed with those beans either, especially for the price. I think I was maybe expecting too much based on the sherbet description.

Very interested in the Nextwave Pulsar dripper which has been developed in conjunction with Jonathan GagnƩ.

I was looking at the Nextlevel anyway, didn’t know they were working on a new one.

Interesting adding in a flow valve, I think it was sprometheus on YouTube who said it was between a French press and v60 before guess this makes it even more so.

Be interested on feedback if you get one

Looks like the Hario switch but better maybe

Yeah, I tried all variations of the Kasuya method but just couldn’t get it to taste of much at all. It’s pleasant but just a bit bland.

For those that have tried both, what are the benefits/differences between a flat bottomed dripper (like Kalita Wave / Torch Mountain) and conical one (V60)?

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The flat bottomed brewer I’m using (Bluebottle) is clog resistant. You don’t get a random brew where the fines all wash down into the point of the cone because there isn’t one! This makes it remarkably consistent. Not all flat bottomed brewers are equal though. I have been through the Kalita - both sizes- and this one is streets ahead.

That San Fermin coffee is pretty dull tbh. I had it a couple of times as a batch brew from one of their shops and it was bang average. If Origin can’t brew it better, who could?

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Agree about the San Fermin, it was a bit disappointing.

The Beloya otoh was :heart_eyes: (nla though)

I’ve just ordered some

And

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Interesting, might just try it for the fun of it. I’ve noticed that different beans seem to drain differently in my V60, even at the same grind setting. E.g. with the San Fermin, I keep getting sink holes in the middle of the coffee, and it rarely seems to drain according to the Kasuya method guidelines (e.g. being drained by each next pour and being done by 3:30), whereas the other beans I’m using, something my wife bought from Starbucks (which I’m actually finding surprisingly good, better than the San Fermin tbh), drains perfectly according to the times.

Edit it’s actually the other way round with the drainage but Starbucks one still the better.

So glad to hear you both corroborate my thoughts (although shame I wasted my money). I assumed it was down to my poor brewing skills. I’ve been tearing my hair out brewing it in every permutation of the Kasuya method and with different temperatures and grind settings trying to get it right.

@coco let us know your thoughts on the Sitio BuscapĆ© and Kii. I’ve nearly finished with the SF so will be looking for a replacement soon.

Not all flat bottomed drippers are the same. I have the Torch Mountain dripper, lovely thing, but you really need to some practice to get a good cup of coffee from it, whereas the Simplify you just pour the water in and get a consistent and good cup.

The other dripper to look at is the Origami which can take both types of filter and lets you taste the difference between them.

I do like the Torch but I would probably take the Origami ahead of it.

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