Do you own a copy of whatever this is? (TBH I hope not!)
What I hear is that it is all very close miked and therefore sounds artificial, muddled, and isnt very dynamic. Not a lot to do with the system its being played on.
Do you own a copy of whatever this is? (TBH I hope not!)
What I hear is that it is all very close miked and therefore sounds artificial, muddled, and isnt very dynamic. Not a lot to do with the system its being played on.
No I don’t own a copy of this. I did hear this system play familiar records though. I picked up one for the jazz thread. The description you have could be true of the recording but for me is also true of Magicos in general.
I’m gonna fart through my phone and compare to real life
It smells less fruity on an iphone, you need to follow through a soundbar.
I will do the same.
Now all we need is identical rooms, identical phones to record it, identical distances from the phone, same trousers, same height from the floor, same height above sea level and that should all be good
I can offer an advanced video course if need be
*this thread ffs
Kind of like Batman Begins. What Ra’s Al Ghul quotes at the beginning, Batman repeats to him in the later half.
Can I have some of what you’re smoking?
If you state what you prefer in A vs B and why, we can tally how many of you agreed with the in room owner
Above you are comparing two different records and performances of the same classical piece
Next compare, A vs AB. The compare is for vdh master signature stradivarius and Neumann DST using the same record,
Studer A80RC vs Telenfunken M15
https://youtu.be/rclHUW4PVQICD
Not the same clip, tape compares make it difficult to play back the same clip like one would with LP or CD. Either way, most of us who did it reached the same conclusions as the owner.
The same Chaconne playing across three different systems. The superiority of the 817 is easy to hear. First order crossover, coherence, blend of the 2-way drivers is way superior
Same Mahler 2 being played below on all 3.
First with Natural Sound speakers, AN-J M10 preamp, S9 step up, AN Kegon 300b with western electric reissues, Electrocompaniet used to Biamp the woofers below 250 HZ, and finally subs below 75. Koetsu rosewood platinum signature cartridge on Vertere TT and arm
Klanfgfilm Bionor with Kondo G10 SUT, G1000 pre/phono, and Kondo Kagura with Amperex 211 valves, Schroeder’s idler table with his Linear Tracker, MSL catridge sounding better
https://youtu.be/cR-5dXeY8K0
My personal inroom favorite, Altec 817 with Audioantiquary electronics, 301 and SPU. In room the Kondo Bionor system is as good but room issues due to the baffle size, the Altec is just unfettered. And the 817 owner also had a Bionor before.
Will have a listen tonight
Difference in coherence of dual FLH and disparate driver cone is easy to hear
These are now labeled. But originally they weren’t, and I blind tested over 15 people across these two analog set ups. One Vyger atlantis with Top Wing Red Sparrow, and the other Techdas AF3 premium with VDH master signature stradivarius. The lowest score in favour of Vyger was 3/4, most getting 4/4, for the same reasons that the owner and I did in room.
First compare on jazz
https://youtu.be/lWMeoamjLRM
Then on classical piano
Violin concerto compare. House rules on this thread, no house, ye know how’s
I tried these. The 817 video seems louder, is it?
I feel there are differences but I honestly think if sat with any of these that I’d be happy. I’m probably not one of those people needing to make sure I have the absolute best sound.
Would definitely be nice experiencing all these systems though.
In the first post comparing chaconne, the Altec midbass blends in much more easily into the upper frequencies giving the violin a fuller sound. This is probably due to the fact that crossover is first order, and the woofer is not rolled off by 6 db compared to a higher order crossover and so does that coherent blend in.
The second video is also nice, the third (Vitavox corner horn), sounds very improperly set up, thin, as if the cartridge is sawing back and forth.
In the Mahler 2 compares, the Kondo Bionor has great tone. The Altec has more dynamic range, is unfettered, and gets into the music better. I like both. The first audio note system comparatively sounds closed in, and not as free. All these set ups are relatively natural and not doing the extra pinpointed hifi centre imaging thing like CD into Gryphon + Wilson.
In the third post the dual FLH is just way more integrated and coherent through the midbass than the Wilson. Listen for differences in the bass section.
The Vyger atlantis + Red Sparrow vs Techdas AF3 + vdh Stradivarius
Generally, across the three, there is much more flow in the Vyger videos while the Techdas vdh is more stop start. Techdas vdh itself has great highs and transients and attack, but the Vyger RS is outdoing it. Listen to the attack on the leading edge of the piano, the body, the inner inflections of notes. Most of these are audible through my iphone 11 and definitely if you have good headphones or a nice soundbar to stream to.
If you say so
Over 15 people who are video regulars got that on the Vyger vs Techdas just blind testing, the videos weren’t labeled. These are guys who listen to videos regularly of systems they visit, playback, know where they can extrapolate and where they cannot.