Knives and Sharpening

The lure of folded bling is strong

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A Robert Welch 12cm kitchen knife is a great utility knife, will cover off an the light boning work as well as use a a small chefs knife, great all rounder.

That leaves enough in the tank for a Wusthoff chefs knife, with decent bolster

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No I wouldn’t use a paring knife for skinning fish, it is a small kitchen knife, but gets a lot of use/
I never prepare fish so have no idea

Maybe I used the wrong term. I need a knife suitable for trimming and cleaning up meat.

Google tells me I need a boning knife?

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It’s a one trick pony, 90% of what it can do can be acheived with a knife that has other uses.

For the home kitchen i haven’t not been able to bone out any meat. However, if you are wanting to bone some hefty raw beef or lamb sinew, the type that runs through knuckle joins, then yea, a boning knife.

I want a knife for trimming meat, I said boning knife as that is what google suggested.

  1. you want a boning knife (careful you don’t end up with a butchers knife: they’re more for slicing through great hunks of meat) or a utility knife (if its not going anywhere near bone) for the trimming jobs, IMHO
  2. we all know you mean “bodies” when you say “meat”
  3. Get yourself a Victorinox 6-Inch Fibrox Pro Flexible Boning Knife
  4. Spend the rest - which will be the bulk - on a Chefs knife, you can use this for most of your jobs…save for boning.

The world’s your oyster, really. Everyone has a favourite and swears by them til their blue in the face. It’s a rabbit hole of adventure if you fancy a few nights of reading.

Or just get a MAC and move swiftly on

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Thanks.
So boning knife for trimming the crap off meat, chefs knife for everything else?

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I use a boning knife for filleting fish and trimming meat, it has a really bendy/flexible blade for fish.

Bought a set of Wusthof, can’t remember the name but they are the budget ones with plastic handles, still really good though.

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That or a a utility, yeah

I use my boner for trimming rhe flat cap on a brisket, or a pork neck

I don’t find myself reaching for the utility, though I daresay it’s just as handy for the job

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Here it is, think I paid £130 in 2022 so it’s not a bad price

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002QF9PP8/ref=pe_27063361_487055811_TE_dp_1

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One thing i learnt is dont buy western knives with this type of blade/ handle transition. Nice steel on these, but usability and balance are frankly not up to scratch. Relegated for camping.

I have a set of these Robert Welch knives, they look lovely but I find the handles a bit to small and as they are too round and smooth, the knife can rotate a bit which does not inspire confidence.

There was a nice chopping masterclass section on James Martin’s programme this morning (ITV) mostly on chopping veg but useful tips.

The crux of this is “is this knife going to hit bone, have to work it’s way through joints (e.g. rack of lamb) or similar?” If yes, you want a boning knife. Crucial things are they’re on the softer side of the steel options, partly because they’re then easier to sharpen when you hit bone, and partly because harder steels are generally more brittle and bone is likely to chip / crack the blade. Blade wants to be nice and curvy at both the tip and the base - the curve on the base helps with things like frenching a rack of lamb.

I’ve got one of these, primarily because a friend of mine gave it to me, which was nice: Signature Boning Knife 16cm | Kitchen Knife | Robert Welch Designs Ltd

For everything else, trimming sinew, a regular chefs knife is all you need, and you’ll generally find the longer blade mades the trimming etc neater. Exact size is quite personal preference based. Standard chef’s knife is generally 8", and you’re making various trade offs of weight, dexterity, stroke length etc. Generally shorter is easier to use, but longer blades can of course cut longer things more easily. If you find yourself skinning a lot of fish, a longer blade is definitely advantageous.

For basic, the Victorinox Fibrox handled stuff is unbeatable. Go up a bit, you’ve things like Mac and Tojiro. And then you get into spendy territory that’s probably not on the agenda here.

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Thanks, i can’t remember the last time i cut near bone apart from carving leg of lamb.
So a decent chefs knife will do all I need, chopping, carving & trimming?

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Yup.

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I take it anything Damascus is very very spendy?

Meant to ask - do you have some means to sharpen them?

And no, damascus is somewhat spendy, but you don’t have to be dropping a grand on a knife for it. Might not be the best way to go with your budget though.