LTNs, 20mph etc. Traffic calming, or the war on motorists

These two

relatively chunky documents just dropped through the door and I’ve been trying to get my head around them. Obvs I knew that changes were afoot but I wasn’t up on the detail.

It sounds like trial measures of

  • modal filters (ANPR dishing out fixed penalty notices at certain times of day)
  • one way filters
  • banned turns
  • one-way streets with a parallel cycle lane in both directions
  • coloured surfacing
  • parklets

is going ahead pretty promptly. I saw surveyors out first thing on Monday morning.

In tandem there is a statutory consultation on a controlled parking zone, and a “healthy route” (deliberately making it more pleasant for active travel and awkward for cars).

My initial predictions are for further boomer rage and if the CPZ goes ahead, displacement of parking from the street onto the estate where I live. There is actually no right to park here - the estate is private, not adopted by the council, we pay for its maintenance, so it could get quite testy.

Meanwhile the nearest LTN is currently a giant hole in the ground.

Some vehicles were still ignoring it and trying to squeeze their way over kerbs and between planters, so I think that the council are now trying to make it simply impossible to use it as a short cut.

Might swing by there this afternoon and take a gander.

Ooh, YPLAC stickers :bulb: My time to shine.

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All the more reason to get a gigantic Range Rover to get over it.

Well good to their word I’ve just walked past what appeared to the installation of an LTN a few roads across.

Large planters and benches being installed blocking off one end of a triangle of roads, so everywhere is still accessible by vehicle, but one road becomes access-only.

This is directly outside a busy church and a nursery so the location probably isn’t an accident.

Of course I may have misread the situation completely so I’ll be going back for another snoop later :smile:

Gammon be fewmin, doubtless.

edit: removed potentially misleading “guerrilla”. Officially sanctioned, “lightning installation” would probably be a better way of saying “rock up with loads of bits, drop it in the road, drive off”

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Do you drive?

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Nope.

And nor do the majority of residents of the borough (Lambeth).

Default state of gammon.

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Well it’s hotting up here.

Some folk are having a GoFundMe for a legal challenge* because “nobody has been consulted”.

What do you think these are?

One woman has been ranting that she wants a face-to-face meeting with Lambeth council (I guess because she’s special) but she couldn’t find anyone to speak to. Another neighbour outed himself as the local church minister, which came as a surprise - no dog collar etc. - and said that’s he’d had no problem. He’s obviously concerned about accessibility for his congregation.

And last night we got home to this homebrew green ink brigade rant.

I get the impression that they’re confused between “data” and “assertions”, and the 67.5% in red is simply not true. A previous consultation drew 67.5% unfavourable responses. So basically they said that they were going to do something, and the majority of people complaining did, indeed, complain.

Slightly different to 67.5% of residents.

Loving that completely unsubstantiated “1000%” and I would bet that the “they haven’t refuted it so that makes it true” fallacy actually has a name.

And my newest neighbour just went straight in with “won’t someone think of the children” (who would risk missing out on getting asthma or just plain run over).

* I went over and had a look and they’re doing pretty well. Around £24k for a target of £30k. At least the organisers are a lot clearer - they’ve been advised that they would stand a better than 50% chance of winning, but it would be on procedural grounds rather than science, data, public health etc.

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I hope you’re going to point out to them that data are plural :grin:. (I’ve made my peace with the typo in the first bullet point.)

Haha, I had to look very hard for that, my brain evidently filling in the correct wording that wasn’t actually there.

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Yep, absolutely no idea what point you’re trying to make there.

Use your words :+1:

Something…Spirit of freedom…Something oppression…Something stealth tax…Something joyless motoring…

Completely appreciate I stand on the moral low ground, congratulations! This is more than fine, I don’t like heights.

This is in a very densely populated suburban area where the ask is a few small concessions away from the streetscape being 100% devoted to cars.

Oppression. What a load of pathetic twaddle.

All I got from that clip was Aciiid!
But that may be from my memory of the scene in the cemetery while under the influence of the same drug in the cinema when I saw the film in the 70s

The pic immediately made me think ‘get your motor running’ which seemed apt.

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The rage is palpable :grinning:

You’re right, thank you. For a moment there I was confused what are roads for.

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Sydenham needs more horses.

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