LTNs, 20mph etc. Traffic calming, or the war on motorists

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I was bought a bicycle for my 11th birthday so I could get myself to secondary school. Still riding to work 40+ years later (but not on the same bike).

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Same here but 5 years younger.

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I’ve left this to stew a bit, but yes, in part. I think there’s a whole slew of irrational thought out there - public transport and active travel are unsafe, “dirty” (I hear that one a lot), something not quite nice that the poors do.

I get that cars are frequently more convenient but in this particular instance you’d need your head looking at to drive voluntarily in the school run traffic here - it’s atrocious. And yet they still do it.

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Exactly this; I agree wholeheartedly- I sit behind these in unnecessary traffic jams every fucking morning and afternoon it seems!

On balance- I drive around the less salubrious suburbs and there are quite a lot of muggings and stabbings unfortunately… I can understand people choosing another way to travel. :cry:

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Just laziness I’m afraid.

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All school runs are shit, for everyone, in every town and city up and down the country. It doesn’t matter what car is driven at all. When EVs are a thing , people will still moan about the school run.

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Interesting experience the other day, heading through a village called Shirburn. This is in Oxfordshire, so @MGOwner not withstanding you would expect a large number of residents to be best accompanied by a pineapple ring and peas.

Oxfordshire has of course put lots of 20mph limits in, but not there. And surprisingly there were a lot of posters asking why they hadn’t got their 20mph limit.

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I used to live in Shirburn.
The place is a racetrack. The run from Oxfordshire villages and towns towards the M40, is focused on this one road. It’s busy, and nobody drives at 30 (the current limit).
Their claim to 20mph is misguided as there is NO community, and precious little “foot” traffic to justify it. The traffic is continuous but there is very little impact on the resident’s lives. Apart from FOMO.
Where I am, there is a community (it’s part of the reason for us being here), but no footpaths and a ‘blind’ bend in the middle of the village. The 20mph limit is justified.

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