Obituaries

Such a pity she never lived to see the benefits of the Brexit she helped deliver.

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That changes things though.

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Not really, still an odious cunt.

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Reckon the gays have finally caught up with her :sweat_smile:

Ordinarily I would say this too; I’d agree. However this cuts differently because the sort of hatred and division spread by her makes life way more difficult than it needs to be…

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Fuherage will be straight in with “that’s why I need the £5M g(r)ift, I must up my security, I am the most attacked” etc., etc.
He might say a few platitudes first but I wouldn’t bet on it.

She was an odious bitch but I’d prefer she’d had a painful/degrading natural death rather than being murdered.

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Obviously one wouldn’t wish a violent murderous death on anyone let alone a defenceless 78 year old woman.

That said, I find the canonisation of Widdecombe since her death to be somewhat troubling.

I don’t care that she was willing to go on tv and debase herself for money in a misguided attempt to rehabilitate her public image. I don’t care if her friends thought she was a nice person.

I care that over the last thirty years, she played a not insignificant role in peddling and enacting some of the most divisive politics and policies that have changed our country and not for the better.

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This. The whole notion of “don’t speak ill of the dead” really fucking bugs me.

This isn’t a Godwin’s point, but if you take someone like Hitler or Stalin, no one (of sound mind) is trying to canonise what they were like. So we can get our heads around the fact that this doesn’t have to be the case, but we still apply the dividing line way too high up the scale, imho.

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Anytime someone trots out the lines ‘you shouldn’t speak ill of the dead’ or ‘if you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all’ etc, especially when the deceased in question is a completely toxic bigot, then I just dismiss them as imbeciles.

I can think and say what I like without being told that I shouldn’t, and death however the circumstances does not alter the deeds and actions of the person when they were alive.

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Very much this.

She didn’t have a single redeeming feature. I can tolerate right wing politicians if they believe in what they are saying and are willing to debate their arguments but she was arrogant and dismissive,

Her politics was that of hatred, persecution and victimization, in short she was an odious cunt who never once did a decent thing.

She switched to catholic because they called homosexuality, abortion and same sex marriage a sin and she thought the CofE/Anglicans were getting too soft FFS

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Yeah she deffo needs canonising alright - straight into the sea. I’d volunteer to light the fuse :+1:

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Thou shalt pun ill of the dead.

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RIP always thought he was one of the better newsreaders/presenters with a good sense of humour

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Don’t think he ever got the credit he deserved as an actor after Jurassic Park, could do horror really well and was great in comedies

The Piano, Event Horizon and the Dish stand out

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He was also very good as the Northern Irish cop in the first couple of Peaky Blinders series.

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Damn shame :slightly_frowning_face: - even tho’ it was tangibly nonsense, the first JP was a lot of fun and he pretty much carried it. We provided some consultation (which SFAICT was completely ignored) at the NHM, so the entire museum got a private screening in Leicester Square before general release - it was a pretty cool moment, just hard to take-onboard that it was 33 years ago!!!

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Sam Neill was excellent in Dead Calm

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First film I remember seeing him in was the omen final conflict. Must watch it again

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