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Funnily-enough I also saw the same model today. Not sure about Taycan comparisons, but it’s certainly an improvement over its predecessor.

What really struck me was quite how fuckhuge it is. You are a substantially braver man than me if you fancy backing one of those onto your drive! :open_mouth:

Saw a Cross Turismo (or maybe it was asport Turismo, was hard to tell as it went past and it was dirty in a dark colour) but I vastly prefer it to the standard Taycan.

I compared Plug in Panamera sport Turismo with Prius plug in in 2018 and bought the Prius. 600kg lighter and actually fits into the parking bays I use.
I would have had to add £10k of extras to the Panamera to match the Prius standard spec.
It wasn’t worth the extra to me.

I much prefer the Taycan styling, personally, but I am an aero guy, though the latest Panamera is a vast improvement on the original to my eyes.

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Shows what a nation of badge-snobs we are, as Toyota isn’t bringing the latest gen Prius to the UK at-all…

Speaking to my dealer the problem is less badge snobbery and more the SUV fashion, which is still a total mystery to me, but is definitely a thing.

Prius didn’t get anything like the sales of the RAV4.

For me it is proof fashion is the main driving force in car sales, no surprise there but I am still surprised SUVs are still in fashion…

Back when I was at Williams I compared X5 and 5-series estate, the estate had more usable space inside, was lighter and more aerodynamic so faster and more economical.
It was the engineers choice for company car (for those entitled), the marketing and general management all went for the X5 instead - it was the latest fashion.

I am still baffled by it.

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Hear-hear. Every SUV I’ve been in seemed oddly cramped and compromised, yet (generally) you pay more for them, they weigh more, and have worse aero - but it seems estates are the dying breed.

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A (perceived) safety thing, people think they are safer in a bigger car, especially liked by women drivers with the higher driving position.

Utterly bonkers as they aren’t any safer (probably less)

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Many engineering related features of the Prius impressed me.
One was the structural use of carbon fibre in the inner tailgate structure.


The only carbon fibre available on the Panamera was expensive optional glossy non structural trim, which I despise on principle…

Porker in background to avoid thread irrelevance :wink:

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This is correct, more likely to have an accident in an emergency situation in SUV, passenger damage depends on NCAP but pedestrians pretty well always worse off due to height of impact meaning they are more likely to end up under a SUV rather than on the bonnet.
One of the F1 tyre guys told me the easiest way to pass the roll-over test in a SUV is to fit lower grip tyres, so it is a popular solution…
Not much of a gain in emergency braking though.

Whole fashion totally bonkers.

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We also do not like them for rear impact reasons, we do not want the KettleJnrs to be in the crumple zone if something goes into the back of us. It appears that there are very few actual videos of rear impact tests going around but we did manage to find a comparison between a current Golf and Jetta which was the reason we got the Passat GTE rather than the golf. There is no substitute for distance and hence stopping time in an impact.

The only SUV milk float with a proper distance between the boot and rear seats that we have seen is the Enyaq, but the Polestar 2 is still better than it.

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60 years of Porsche live stream from Goodwood at the moment:

Could’ve been a track day or a trip to Germany?
I like that, if true, the owners won’t have known.

I think the owners are driving the cars, just not aware of the trackers.
But it is Fesshole, so could be total bollocks.

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Pretty sure the latter. It’s be in violation of all sorts of laws to gather this kind of data.

Well maybe in the US…

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So far so good with the Panny however the last couple of days the alarm has been randomly going off. Decided to check the battery and its the original so 10 years old. Done pretty well I would say so I reckon I may as well replace it and see if that sorts the alarm issue at the same time. A call to my local MD they want £622 and that includes a 3-4 week wait to actually fit it. WTF!! Some phoning around to be done.

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£622!!! for a battery???

Does it need programming in? Had a car once that needed that. If it doesn’t, then I would definitely do it yourself

£360 +VAT for the battery. £190 to fit it. Surely it cant take more than half an hour.

That’s fucking mental for a battery. :clown_face:

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