Synergy / MEH horns a new system

Crap video😂 YouTube made it all shaky but you get the idea

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First of a coupe of trial runs in the open air.

Pleased with how it all worked..
Music playback - streamed nicely thanks to Dom’s Wilm😚

Worked mics and YouTube for kareoke worked well.

Will be used in a large marquee 19m X 12m so easier than true open air.

Even so I was just tickling the volume.
Far too loud to talk on the dance floor area (marked out by the cones) I was still at -21dB on Najda with the LF Amps on full and the MF and HF less than half..

I want another sub though, so investigating that. You can never have too many subs..

The Danley sound is clear and images well.



Have short vids too - might get round to uploading..
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Extensively used in the club I was at on Saturday!

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Investigator

The disco defender also uses Dalnleys. Sounded pretty good outside to me.

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Yes, they are the smaller SM60F’s.
The M is for injection Moulded.
They use a BMS dual HF compression driver and 5" MF cone (interesting product), a clever moulded pathway from the 5" cone to the horn taps, and two Beyma 8" woofs.

Keeps all the drivers within 1/4 wavelength distance, or close as possible..

Good for down to 60 or near that Hz.

I would love to hear them!

They are rather more sensible in size and weight Vs their bigger brother SH50 / SH60🙂

All Danley stuff reportedly has that clear, uncomplicated well imaged and depth to sound..

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Fucking trees playing havoc with the imaging there. :grinning_face:

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:joy: They won’t be in the marquee :wink:

Thinking about it the first wavefront hit between the eyes regardless of the trees when standing in the dance floor area.
In the open air there is little or no reflected shite.

I feel my house needs some

Edit: the 6x6ft bass bins also help

I have the want, who doesn’t want to hear horns in the garden for a couple of days. Neighbours might not be too happy,

You might find with a fast horn sub these will kick your existing speakers into touch!
I’d go for the DSP version (you get all the necessary DSP setups from Danley for great freq resp and phase).
But of course you can tweak the sound profile to suit your application. Living room or atop a Landrover,

Hey Steve

Is there a version of these that works in a bookshelf scenario?

15 x 10 room firing the 15foot way
Speakers will need to be hard against wall and built into a bookshelf

Current plan was to get something retro 70s and not worry about the issues I will inevitably have but up for considering anything that might make for better sound in the constraints I have

Danley Wedge monitors perhaps?

You can have MEHs that are just HF and MF and do the LF somewhere else.
But the actual MEH part would not play very low if made bookshelf small.

You won’t have single point presentation or phase coherency as the bass drivers will be too far away.
They’d have to play up quite high freq wise.
8" drivers could do that in the right setting.

The SM60Fs are about as small as I’d consider.

I have plans to build a pair with the Vitavox S2’s as HF + 2 X 5" MF (as I use today) and then something beefy for the 2 X 8" LF.

At 53cm square front and only 40cm deep they are ‘quite’ compact.

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Tech Specs & Facilities - The Bongo Club

i found more pics of the space

BRAND NEW DANLEY SOUND LAB PA IN MAIN ROOM - The Bongo Club

and some info

i can safely say, the subs were subbing

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“Crew 2000 and MTV have used the venue for AGM’s and meetings”

There’s a blast from the past, I remember reading the Crew 2000 comic strips back in the 90s on minimising harm from illegal drug use. Those folks must have saved more than a few lives, they were the only show in town giving credible information on ecstasy use at the time, everyone else was too busy telling us we would die we looked at one the wrong way.
Surprised, but happy to see they are still going.

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Steve generously hosted again yesterday when Jim and I visited for an afternoons listening. As reported above the MEH horns are not without a few minor foibles. Not sure if it was room acoustics, PEH settings, the deep bass or something else but it took me a few hours to acclimatise. After our session I can report that to me Steve’s system does offer top tier coherence , full range , low compression, big sound staging and decent projection. Quite a bargain and in my plans for the near future. Thanks Steve.

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Nice to see you after so many years.

I’d forgotten you sold me the TVC, what back in 2010 maybe!

I think we last met at Scalford those couple of times some 12 to 13 years ago.

In defence of the room / setup etc.
I’ve recently had a couple of iterations of setups chasing more punch in the mid bass (esp after Ritchie was here and his comments on the kick on Thunderstruck).
I may have gone too far🙂

I also had the tapped horn amp too high from the garden test - sub duty.

I was also sitting well off axis and so not getting the full volume you were, and I probably had it playing louder than I normally would, thus exciting the room too much.

Third thing is, as a bass player/ex bass player, I like things bass heavy!

Towards the end of the session I had the LF on the MEHs (4 x 12"), and the tapped horns 2 x 15") at about half volume pot power control setting I normally have!
Plus the MF and HF turned up higher than i can take it!
That would mess with linear phase a bit..

Personally I definitely don’t like too much treble. My ears are very sensitive to it / overload easily.

Speakers are very personal of course.
We all hear differently.

The good thing is that with DSP / multi amp, you can tune a system to your ears / room.

Doing that in conventional systems could take weeks/months/years, as Jim mentioned.

I shall continue make tweaks to the setup, no doubt as my ears age too.

I do you get my daughters / their boyfriends in from time to time to age check things.

Perhaps will maintain a what I like / daughters tested setup, and some lighter more hifi audience setups.
Once done, it’s just a press of a button to change instantly.

It will be very interesting to see if you do get the full or partially 3d printed MEH you mentioned done and up and running!

I think that is the future, until plastic is banned :astonished_face:

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Thanks very much for the hospitality yesterday afternoon Steve. Absolutely beautiful cottage and garden you have! :heart_eyes:

I fully agree with your comments about the bass - when Andy and I first started listening, I thought the bass was far too overbearing, to the extent that it was muddying the frequencies higher up. The entire room seemed to be resonating on the lowest notes. Maybe because the mouths of the tapped subs are right in the corners of the room? Have you tried turning them around so the sound exits half way down the side walls?

Unlike Andy, for me it was not an acclimatisation thing - the bass simply needed reducing; once you did that there was a vast improvement right across the frequency range.
I could then hear that the horns were doing what horns should do. More attack, immediacy and resolution and although the room restricts the width of the soundstage, between the horns the imaging was excellent and vocals lovely👌

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