There’s a significant element to all this too that is significant, especially for the pay-cheque to pay-cheque living. America has fuck all of a wellfare state, if you get dismissed, regardless of whether you’ve done anything wrong, you are truly in the shit if you cannot get another position quickly.
I was really talking about what goes on while staff are under contract, which is the case with the TikTok staff who started this discussion oh-so-many posts ago. Sure, the employer can terminate the contract, as can the employee for that matter.
And the healthcare blackmail that employers have of course.
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Whatever the available legal reasons for dismissal may be, employees know that they merely need to tangle an employer up in egregious legal wranglings to involve them in VERY considerable expense. They know it’s cheaper for the employer to pay them to fuck-off.
It may have changed, and it’s inevitably different from state-to-state, but Sam was responsible for managing HR resources at Happy Egg’s US operation (CA based but operating in multiple states) for five years, and this was inevitably how their legal team advised dismissals be undertaken.
May depend on the level. Higher up people have that option, plebs who have a choice between food and lawyers probably don’t.
We are talking about a place where 62% of bankruptcies are due to ill health. Whilst Americans may find acceptance in this, often it is mostly due to pure ignorance. Prison sentencing, employment law all of these things are greedily off humanities beam.
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Agree 100%
I have worked for a few US companies and have spent a good deal of time there.
Hire and fire is very common in the IT and networking markets. They almost view the employees as contractors hiring them for certain projects and letting them go at will. It’s an unwritten understanding that they could be fired at will and I didn’t see anyone who wanted to take the company to court.
They are very big on references and unlike the UK they will comfortably write a bad one so causing grief is uncommon.
Oh dear, have a few drinks to drown your sorrows Mel and just blame it on the jews 
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