Grew up with the beatles as my mum loves them. She likes the pre 65 stuff and I prefer rubber soul onwards.
It’s just cheerful fun music and I often just stick a beatles album on, can’t think of many albums where there isn’t a song I don’t like.
PS Ringo Starr is a great drummer.
Having recently binned Twatify and not decided on a replacement, it currently isn’t, and doesn’t really help sort the wheat from the chaff…
Haha, yes! I’m the same. I got revolver in the early eighties though, and have since bought the rest. I think it’s worth your while actually sitting down and listening to them. I periodically go through a spike in my listening to them, which I am at the moment. Hence the thread!
Phil Collins stuck up for Ringo telling other drummers to try doing the fills for A day in the life
Ringo is an amazing drummer. On the early stuff he swings like a motherfucker and is so in the pocket. Will try and find a live thing later where he is smashing the living fuck out of his kit. It’s so exhilarating. Later he became so inventive. Then, there is the left hander playing a right handed kit, which means his fills are often lead by his ‘wrong’ hand. The guy is unique 
If you speak to people who were 'cool; in the early to late 60’s they somtimes say the Beatles were hard to love because their audience was so young and often (uncool) - The stones filled the rebel image far more around 64… When I’ve spoken to people who were in bands in the 60’s and in particular people who shared the stage with them they invariably would have given both testicles to have written 1 of their songs.
When you consider the trajectory of them as you note it’s x3 years from ‘Love me do’ to ‘Tomorrow never knows’ - This is a quantum, leap in sound and style - immediately you enter into comparissons with ART - Picasso just turning up cubism for example - I’m not saying the beatles invented anything, I am saying they were on the crest of many waves as they peaked.
Perhaps it’s better to break down the genres they aced
I can think of no other band that managed produce such superior songs in this many genres (and I’ve probably missed a few)
I’m not an avid Beatles guy but in context, the stones mooched through a few genres but didn’t hit such high points, the Who similarly - Led Zep sound like Led Zep.
Finally I’d say they earned their ticket. From living behind the screen in a porno cinema in Hamburg wired on billy to the screaming stadiums - they honed their craft to a point which has not been matched.
…I’ve not listened to the Beatles for a while (Probably since the doc came out) but They are the yard stick in Pop culture, song writing (big argument for studio / tech advancement here too)
I bought that little digital remaster usb thing in the shape of an apple when it came out. Only thing I’ve bought by them.
Love them though. For some reason I often find myself singing Eleanor Rigby or Golden Slumbers, those two just seem to be stuck in my head.
There are other milestones too, and in and around them there are almost tossed-off gems like ‘Rain,’ the B-side of Paperback Writer. Psych pop perfection that I can listen to over and over without getting bored. 
That’s the thing there is no Dud Beatles LP, each has at least x2 culturally defining classic numbers - Some people (Mods) didn’t like them beacuse they were coming from a rocker background (Silver beatles) Some didn’t like them beacuse initially they were too clean… Some find it easy to poke at Ringo - fuck all wrong with his drumming but he really shouldn’t have been given a pen - fair play to him though if I could make a million off Octopus’s Garden I would,. Then there’s Apple - They were in another league.
This is where I most rate them, then morphing that into Indian Spiritualism / Sitar etc etc. Never standing still, always on a journey.
No it isn’t 
I found myself agreeing with almost everything Stu posted above.
The Beatles have always been part of my life.
I had a cool young aunt and she bought me my first ever record for a birthday present.
It was a 7" EP (33RPM) with Twist and Shout, Do You Want To Know A Secret, A Taste Of Honey, and There’s A Place. Mad that I can still remember all the tracks! and I have great memories of dancing round the room with her when I was 5 or 6
By the time I got seriously into music the band had split, John Lennon was cool, Everyone had a copy of Imagine, Older brother and sisters of my mates (the cool ones) had Songs for Bangladesh.
McCartney was doing shite Pop and was defo not cool
During m teenage years I was into Rock, Prog and Folk and when I looked backwards it was to the Blues and Folk. I was a huge Dylan fan but never listened to the Beatles.
I absolutely acknowledge their astonishing influence, I remember watching a documentary about Americam music in the 60s and someone from the Mamas and Papas said that they were used to songwriters from the east coast writing for singers and the M&Ps struggling to find a place for themselves “Then the Beatles happened and the world changed for every musician forever”
I have still never bought a Beatles album, I have a copy of Revolver, Rubber Soul, White Album and SPLHCB but have never played any of them from start to finish.
In most genres of music I have long got past the cultural prejudices of my youth and have listened to stuff with an open mind that I would have dismissed in my teens and twenties.
For some reason that has never included the Beatles.
I really ought to remedy that.
Also, my Dad had a red Ford Capri with a black vinyl roof when I was young which included what must have been an 8 track stereo. Massive cassette thing of which he only had a few, the only one I remember is Yellow Submarine as I wanted to play it every time we went in the car 
This is the exact pattern split I have with my Mother.
The omnipresence of Beatles material tends to blind us to the innovation of it. As you note, Tomorrow Never Knows is just astonishing. In a world of Pro Tools, it sounds perfectly normal but it ignores just how much effort went into it;
Annoyingly, pt 2 of this isn’t on YouTube but it’s HERE
I think the influence of drugs and their extraordinary fame on their music, and the resultant self- medication is not to be underestimated. Also, how they got better at making albums, literally learning on the job. The influence of Dylan, in that the lyrics, particularly Lennon’s got more personal, all mean that their albums hang together better as they went along, amongst many other things, of course…
Oh, thanks, not seen this!
The opening of Tomorrow never knows always has the same effect on me. The bass, the drums. That fucking groove… Macca n Ringo. Just fucking hell!
When I was younger, thinner, more chemically inconvenienced and going to more Big Beat events, TNK was one of the tracks that DJ’s like Cut La Roc (aka Lee Potter) and Justin Warfield of Lionrick would just throw into their sets (along with Jean Jaques Perrey’s E.V.A that sounded so much like a 90s Big Beat track that Norman Cook released a beefed up version in '97) . They weren’t using it because it sounded retro, they were using it because it fucking slaps.
I think it was easier then to not be into them, and we grew up with them on the radio all the time. They were so popular they became passé. My kids don’t have any of that. They just like the music. They can sing along to a lot of their stuff, just like they do with Kendrick Lamar.
My own parents were alienated by The Beatles. They just didn’t get it at all!
Some of us were subject to the same influences as the Beatles, (records provided via our kid off the boats) and snobbishly rated “authenticity” above all. We did appreciate the upset caused to mouldy fig teachers and other adults.
The Beatles grew up in an Atlantic city facing away from most of English culture. I went to the same school as two of the Beatles and was issued a First Latin Primer with McCartney’s name in the front, which I sold, at a time when ten bob was ten bob.
Still don’t own any lps, but do have I Wanna Hold Your Hand.
Certainly they went to places Ale doesn’t get you and the results were expressed very well indeed. but it’s the way those guys could express that gets me. McCartney on his own was and exceptional musician and would’ve been a star in his own right. Then there is Lennon another remarkable talent who could and would’ve made it big unquestionably. Then George who deserves more than he gets and also would’ve made it with ease - in combonation however they were so much larger than the sum of their parts. This is probably the biggest thing to hit me from the 6 hr Doc. Imagine a band with x3 Hendrix’s with complimenting talents for example.
