The Milk Float Thread

Apart from still using vast quantities of the planet’s resources to continue producing the same numbers of cars in one technology or another which is unsustainable then yeah, its hunky dory :thinking:

Well I agree with @dom 's comment that we need to reduce car usage and ownership, but I don’t think that’s something that car manufacturers can do much about. It would need government investment in public transport, better planning for urban areas, better ride sharing solutions, that kind of thing. It’s not easy for individuals to do much about that, or car manufacturers.

Yes I agree, I’ve been banging on about reducing personal car ownership as being the fundamental goal from day one, and accept that its a complex problem requiring a number of agencies to work together.

It’s just depressing how little progress is being made in this regard, I don’t really see much focus on reducing car ownership behind the rush to change cars to shiny new tech.

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Is the 15 years lifetime because they are no longer viable? Or are good cars with some life left in them being scrapped?

Well electric scooters have been around for years but they’re still illegal in the UK. (I’d love a couple, but Claire has heard reports of people locally being fined, so she’s not having it.) Since our government can’t even do this, the chances of a major change in our cities is rather low.

My folks have a new build flat in a huge development in Portishead (well, it’s about 15 years old now). The local council decided that the way to get car ownership down was to limit flats to a single parking space, but not provide any public transport. This means that the roads are cluttered with cars, it’s an ugly mess. I despair.

I think it’s both, to be fair. My car ran fine, but demand was squashed by the amount of car tax. Add to that the fact that it starts to cost a grand a year to fix it up as bigger things start to go wrong, and it’s not economically viable. Even with all the repairs, they start getting less reliable and stuff stops working.

We go live to Havana.

Well, both of my cars are over 10 years old!

Alright, we’ll see if you’ve got those two in six years.

I’ll likely have at least one of them.

Plus I didn’t claim to be any kind of angel in this respect!

Well both of mine are from 03. Well. One and a half?

Wifeys milk float is pure consumerist greed.

LS430. For the eco conscious.

Apparently it does 30mpg on a run. :grinning:

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Nearly. Ish.

The crazy frenchies are at it again

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:heart_eyes:

Jonnycab ftw.

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I hate the look of the thing but it’s a great idea if you live in a large town / city. For us cuntry dwellers it’s a bit pants.
My main gripe with it is it’s size, it doesn’t have to be huge but it looks like it’d be a squeeze for anyone over the age of 14 especially if you wanted to bring the weekly shop home. Could be wrong though.
I guess it’s better than a g-whizz but that’s about as much praise I can give it.

Got in the car today after a charge and it was showing 191 range(not charged to full for battery life reasons).

Did about twenty something miles (under 25 for sure. Two six odd miles and one about ten or so).

Range says 141 now.

Lord knows where the other 100% of my mileage went.

Seems like forcing you to have to follow the “predicted miles per gallon” screen rather “the contents of your petrol tank” gauge.

Too vague for my liking.

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Range in winter has been a bit of a surprise to me, and I was expecting a drop!

There an episode of Harry’s Garage where he talks about efficiency. He was lauding the Tesla, which regularly got over 4.0 miles per kWh. That’s your benchmark.

In summer I could play a little game with myself where I would try to get the efficiency of the car above 5m/kWh. My car is slightly more efficient that the Tesla Model 3, Indeed I think it’s about as efficient as it gets. With careful driving I could get it above 5, which was pleasing on the drive to the forest to walk the dog.

Now it’s cold, it’s hard to get it as high as 3.0. OK there are short runs and deicing or warming the car, that’s a thing, but the scale of the efficiency drop is quite alarming. I recently did 10 miles of driving around town, and was just below 3. I would certainly expect 5 in summer, so it’s a 40% drop.

It’s not a huge problem for me, but if you are considering an EV for commuting, doing longer runs, it could be a real thing. @browellm your trips to Anfield in winter could be an issue, for example.

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