When I bought my Tesla I actually thought that VW were worse - they committed actual fraud against their own customers, with the emissions fixing.
Then, of course, there was DOGE and the actual nazi salute…
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Currently getting quotes for a charger point install. After watching various 'tubes, leaning towards the Hypervolt pro 3.
Any comments from the AA EV illuminati?
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We have a Hypervolt charger. 5yrs old now, its been faultless, the app has been reliable too.
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Do you have it integrated with Octopus Intelligent Go Graham?
TL;DR: it’s fine to buy an Epsten GTi.
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No, we’ve stuck with Go, it works for us.
The charger turns on at 12.30am and off at 5pm each night. We just plug the car in when we get home as needed. Very simple.
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I’ve got the older version that doesn’t integrate. It’s good. The v3 is better obvs having the integration.
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Aren’t Teslas made in China?
Sadly not, plenty of stamped parts shipped from china and finished it Switzerland. It’s why the definition of Swiss made with watches is; 60% of manufacturing costs are from Switzerland.
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Just been doing some reading up on Intelligent Go. Not only does it give anl additional hour overnight (6 in total) at the cheap 8p rate, if you have a big battery that won’t fully charge in 6 hours, you can tell the app how much % you need and by what time. The app will then automatically allocate additional half-hour slots (still at the 8p rate) at other times to achieve what you need!
Another big win is that during the 6 hour overnight period and any additional slots, you can also charge your solar batteries or run lecky hungry appliances, all at the 8p rate. This should be great for us in winter because on the Cosy tariff, we charge our solar batteries every hour available (at the cheapest Cosy rate of 12.46p), then run the house off the batteries all day.
So, not only will our motoring costs be slashed, we will be getting a reasonable saving on heating the bungo too - bonus!
Yes I’m on it, I do it through a car integration rather than the charger.
I also have Home Assistant integrations that charge the house battery when you get a low rate daytime car charging slot 
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Then, there really is no hope!
Food can do a reasonable job in some circumstances with the Designated/Protected Origin stamps. But that’s the only thing I can think of, and it only really applies within the UK/EU.
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My mind is completely boggled by this, You don’t want to be judged by assumption yet you are happy to fund a guy who nazi salutes and tries to undermine our country by continually pushing the race war card.
Troll fodder. hmmm The guy is a bloody racist nazi. He’s not an east target, he’s a fully fledged cunt. Are you suggesting Musk has been misrepresented? I’d be interested to hear your counter argument.
You don’t seem to have any morals whatsoever other than “what works for you” financially. You seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
I try to maintain a level head on this forum but fcking hell, a man has limits.
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Someone told me the other day that the ‘value’ of a low mileage car is irrelevant for EVs and is a hang over from our ICE car thinking with battery health and charging history being more important with EVs.
The age would still be a factor in regards to the warranty left and how up to date the software might be but actual mileage less so.
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Yes, agreed. Mileage was well down the list of our priorities - someone needs to tell used car dealers this tho - most are still asking way more for low mileage EVs. This is probably why loads of used car dealers are going to the wall.
Having spent a lot of time on the net looking at used EV prices over the past couple of weeks, what has astonished me the most is the sheer amount of deprecation that EVs suffer. The ID3 we’ve bought, despite that it has lowish mileage and great battery health, has lost 62% of it’s value in three years. Compare this to our outgoing Merc A250 - when we bought it at three years old, it had only deprecated 25% and even now at 6 years it still retains about 50% of it’s cost when new.
This, of course is not the fault of the EVs cars themselves, they are fine, it’s the UK government’s EV policy that’s causing the problem. Uptake of EVs in the UK is still too slow, but the government are forcing manufacturers to make more than they can shift. To meet the (compulsory) targets set by the government, they are having to heavily discount new EVs, or pre-register new cars and dump them on the market - which in turn feeds down to the value of used cars. This is not going to change anytime soon either - this year’s compulsory EV target imposed on manufacturers is 28%, next year it goes up to 33%.
The above is good news if you’re after buying a used EV, but my advice is to be cautious and steer clear of high street used car dealers. We managed to find one being sold privately that was about £4k less than the equivalent from dealers on Auto trader. Result! 
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Nice, the ID3 looks great.
I agree on the depreciation thing, but much of the issue is caused by the press creating horror stories about batteries failing, exploding, difficulties of charging etc making people avoid them until the market is more mature. When I got my Hyundai, over 6 years ago, that might have been the case; it isn’t now.
It also should be absolutely normal to plug your car into a lamppost when you get home, and for it to charge during the off peak hours at a low rate, below 20p. But it isn’t. The only charging points my council provides are 79p/kWh, and you also have to pay for parking.
That’s not going to help with adoption, in an area with high incomes and low off-street parking. No wonder these things aren’t being bought enough.
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The World Cup finished ages ago man. I’m starting to seriously question your buying habits
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