Fully understood. My aim was to try and clarify not promote.
I see a massive split across all forums, they have their differences and styles but it is doing no favours to the industry. What happened with the split between AA and the Wam was before my time and my only interest is to make sure everyone, across all forums understands that, if it was possible we should all just bury the hatchet and get on with promoting the hobby rather than taking pieces out of each other.
Anybody taking lumps out of other forums (especially yours) is given short shrift. Any arguments our members may have with other forums are for those members to take back to those other forums. We do not tolerate nor condone bitching about stuff we have no control over.
This thread was started in good will so that members here who had lost touch with others could arrange meet ups.
Anything else, criticism or otherwise, will be jumped on.
For the record, I don’t believe that we have any part in dividing the HiFi community.
I’m sure you can appreciate that there is no future in “he said, she said” style bitching about a third party who was a former friend.
Let’s leave it at that please and get on with our lives with respect, if not admiration for, others.
The existence of the different fora is primarily due to (1) schisms and (2) flounces. While I would be quite happy for the whole world to be one big happy family (metaphorically speaking), people don’t seem to work that way. Personally I thought that it was good that the Art of Sound came to the first Scalford, but it didn’t seem to help cross forum relations.
The best thing is just to let people be where they want to be.
And @HFWW you could easily ascertain the people who have exhibited at most Scalfords before and aren’t this time, and ask them why not. I would have thought that a direct PM on the Wam would be the best way though, rather than posting in here.
On that note, let’s keep this thread for it’s intended purpose. We’ve been very clear about bitching about the other place. Several threads have ended up in the bin. This will too if it starts to go in the same direction.
AA as I understand it, is about friends, shared interests, community, freedom, fun and goodwill - not Industry, profiteering, organizing or bleary beige beliefs / etiquette or agendas.
Shocking behaviour by @MGOwner . I think he’s finally going native…
Fwiw, I probably am going to visit Scalford, I’ve never been, and would like to, because of reasons. As it’s a fair old hike from Lancashire, I think it’s only sensible for me to make a weekend of it, so drive down on the Saturday (assuming I can arrange that to be my day off and clear it with SWMBO) hopefully meet up with a few Abattoirists/Wammers for a beer or 8 on Saturday evening (at Scalford, maybe? Are non-exhibitors allowed in on Saturday?) then wander around the show on Sunday, until the hangover evaporates.
If anyone else is up for that, then great, let’s do it.
Peter, any significant criticism of the Wam is jumped on fairly quickly here, quite rightly. The 2 sites are yin and yang, and can coexist quite nicely. There are obviously some members here who don’t like the direction the Wam has gone because they enjoyed the anarchic nature of it, I used to describe it as the Punk hifi forum, and don’t really want to visit there now. There is also the lingering resentment over what happened before you took over… Equally there are plenty of current Wammers who would hate it here. That’s OK, horses for courses etc. At least AA isn’t poisonous towards every other site like Dunns place, which is best ignored.
I spend time at AA and Wigwam, I choose to post here more, because to me, this is the Punk Hifi forum now. Not that there’s much hifi…