55 inch 4K Television

Our cottage has a very compact living room. If the larger screen was mounted level with the bottom edge, we would be looking up at an increased angle which would be uncomfortable. It was mounted so the top edge was the same height and there was no change for us.
YMMV.

My room is probably bigger and that makes the perspective different. Maybe. :man_shrugging:

Over distance the angle difference would be less critical.

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It would be a change, the mid point of the screen would be lower.
If you have a optimum position and get a bigger TV the centre point should be the same

OK, accepted. We found it was less of a change (I tried both) and felt more natural. Psychologically less intrusive.
Everything in this room is near field. Small changes make a huge difference.

The 805?

Yep

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Lots of discussion regarding the height when wall mounted, but will the brackets you’re considering leave a sufficiently large gap behind it?

In the blurb that came with the set, Philips say it must be 100mm - 150mm away from the wall to ensure the Ambilite is effective. If the feet supplied with the set are touching the wall, the distance is set at exactly 150mm.

It’s on a big cantilever bracket

Looking at that, I could move the TV a touch closer to the wall to clear the amp, and/or move the rack further out from the wall

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I used to have an ambilight TV. They work great against a light coloured wall.

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I’ve just spent over an hour on the Barclays fraud line… followed by another 15 on the barclaycard one since both got bounced trying to buy the TV 🤦

I shall try again tomorrow

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I feel your pain.

They are a pain in the arse Barclays, unbelievably awkward when you dont need them to be and dumb as f**k when you need them to be smart…

It’s a first for me, apparently it got triggered a fortnight ago when I had to swipe my card n the local supermarket. Funny it only bounced the TV though cos I took the family shopping today and it got battered …

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I am now dithering.
Do I really need an OLED TV?
There are some very good 4K (and some 8K) HD LED TVs available.

I don’t watch movies very much, do I need the OLED blackness tricks?
Far more important to me is how sport looks on the TV, how motion is handled. Alll the displays in the shops show high quality slow moving material.
I reckon the natural history docs would look great on any modern screen.

There is quite a big price difference although not so much with the Samsung QLED, but then I thought they were just LED TVs with a clever marketing name?

I am not sure that going to Currys or Ricard Sounds shops is going to help much.

There was a huge difference in the brightness and sharpness between oled/qled and all the others. Oled and qled looked very close . And that was in a brightly lit shop.

My head was briefly turned by a 75” led for £750 but it looked crap compared to the oled screens - like vhs compared to Blu-ray

Yeah but all the shops have vivid display settings which you would never use at home .and never show fast motion in demo.
Which is why I don’t think looking at them in the shop tells you much at all.

I am not looking at at a 75" for £750 more looking at a 65" HD LED for £1500 as opposed to OLED for £2300

The av forums review of the Philips says it’s not quite fast enough for gaming because of input lag but otherwise it’s plenty good enough

I don’t watch much sport, we mainly watch films

Regarding brightness, the leds will have been in shop mode too and they looked rubbish, really flat

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The difference between OLEDs and good LED LCDs in motion terms isn’t huge. Any 4k screen not being fed a 4k signal is interpolating over half the image at any time so the movement of a ball for example (annoyingly) isn’t as good on my OLED as it was on my last of the line plasma. Two things to bear in mind;

  • The availability of 4k sport feeds will only increase
  • With image processing turned off, most 2020 sets are pretty convincing

I like OLED for the same reason I liked Plasma- I like that one pixel can be at 100% next to a pixel that’s ‘off’ and the only smearing is from the limitations of my own vision. LCDs can’t do that and it’s something that annoys me. The premium LED LCDs like the QLEDs can look very good though.

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