Brexit - Creating a Cuntocracy - Now with 4d chess option

You’ve been listening to that M Barnier haven’t you ? And Pete and Adam.

Coming up with a better solution is, as you say, easy. The hard part is getting a majority to agree on what ‘better’ is.

VB

Have you mixed up the isopropyl with the gin or something? Don’t use the gin for cleaning, it’s not very good.

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What a remarkably ill thought comment.

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I see what you did there :+1:.

VB

Can I ask, what do you do for a living?

If this is true it is cuntishness of the lowest sort. Time for the HoC to demonstrate it’s displeasure forcefully.

Fluffer to Nigel Farage.

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Go wobble

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I can’t wait.

VB

Splitters.

What does this actually mean?

You’ve all kind of missed the point - IDS (that lovely charitable chap) is making the assertion. I was merely correcting what he said with what he meant. (perhaps emphasising the ‘WE’ would have helped you?)

Personally I think the whole referendum was a fuck up, called by a fuckwit. It was illegally ran, by liars on one side and “economics, duh” twats on the other. It was advisory but the government have decided its the most binding decision we’ve ever made and they appear to have spent the last 2 years doing precisely 2 fifths of fuck all to prepare for it and now we’re about to crash out with nothing in place.

But since the Tories seem hellbent on returning us to Victorian times with a few wealthy landed mill owners and the rest of us back in our places a poor plebs, that will suit them just fine as they roll back every regulation the EU have ever proposed to protect ordinary people, their health, their rights or anything else that might get in the way of the few screwing the rest of us out of everything else.

Absolutely this :+1:

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Unfortunately, I sincerely doubt they have the balls for it either. (Self) Protectionist politics is the flavour of the decade it seems.

Fortunately (or not, depending on your point of view) the EU understand that if they’d done that then the UK’s truly monumental pig-headedness would have kicked in and we’d have walked into a burning building rather than be seen to have been beaten by foreigners. The result would have been that they’d have replaced their community’s second biggest economy with another third world country a great deal closer than Libya.

So the option they chose was to be professional and reasonable enough that many of us would be left wishing we’d never split from them. The remainder (ironic word) would be poor and hungry enough to dissuade anyone else from doing something so stupid while not being in such a deep hole as to be a humanitarian burden on them.

I think they’ve played their hand, which admittedly was a strong one to begin with, pretty much perfectly. If only it weren’t for the one loose thread, which is the Irish border …

As far as the UK’s concerned, I’ve heard a theory that May is running down the clock by whatever means possible (see Olan’s link to Paul Waugh) with a view to scaring as many as she can into supporting her deal. Failing that she will arrange for there to be a general election. The EU will allow us an extension on Article 50 for this. Then each party will be forced to write a manifesto. We’ll see which of the Tories has really got any balls. Will the ERG fold or will they stick to their principles, refusing to go along with said May’s Deal manifesto and splitting off to become UKIP II ? We’ll also see what Corbyn does when the fence he’s been sitting on suddenly sprouts an electrified barbed-wire topping between his legs. Will he promise unicorns (e.g. all the benefits of the single market without having to accept freedom of movement) or just try noncommittal drivel ? Either should see him do brilliantly, like last time - a moral victory but a real-world defeat. You can see how she might be tempted …

VB

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The EU doing what it was always going to do

and, doing it very well, it seems.

I have no issue with the EU’s approach to Brexit, in fact I’m impressed by it.

What I DO have an issue with is Cameron’s fucking idiocy in giving the British public the choice in the first place and then fronting the poorest remain campaign imaginable.

Hubris.Off.The.Fucking.Scale.

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It’s not in the GFa though, it was a seperate and legally non binding agreement around the common travel area signed off in 2011. All a moot point I know as all sides have stated they don’t want to have a hard border, they just can’t agree how to achieve it so kicked the can down the road.

Thinking about it I’m pretty sure that the open border commitment can’t be legally binding. If there was even the remotest chance that it was then you can be sure that some remainer would have paid M’Lord Pannick to roast HMG in front of the Supreme Court over it by now.

It guess it has some sort of treaty status. So both countries will have signed this treaty promising we won’t create a hard border and a contradictory treaty - an EU one (Rome ? Maastricht ? Lisbon ? dunno …) in the case of the Irish and a WTO one in the case of the UK - promising that in the event of Brexit or, hypothetically, Eirexit we will create a hard border. Careless. But it’s the sort of cockup that just happens sometimes.

VB

Was an amateur cunt but recently staked all on going professional.