Early scoping out of potential DIY horns

Compromises are great if you have the willingness to experiment.

Actually, it occurs to me that what I’m suggesting is rather similar to the Tune Audio Anima

Although I’d have a (single, central) sub with them!

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See, as if by magic, a workable compromise emerges from the DIY soup.

End game, Donald Trumps hair on a stick.

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It’s not a compromise, it’s an outline. You then do the maths, see if you can live with the resulting size, and then you compromise!

I think that the Anima has a truncated horn (like my Lab Subs) for the bass to reduce size, and also uses a traditional driver for the midrange rather than a compression driver, similar to AG. Reproducing this is hard, and real compression driver systems are much larger. But probably better.

That’s those Polish things I was banging-on about earlier and which Crimsonrocket reckons suck arse.

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Tune Audio is Greek, don’t know what Polish speakers you are on about.

He got the country of origin wrong but meant those speakers.

I thought you were talking about the Horns polish speakers.

I’ve not heard the Anima, but it may well be that the compromises they have taken to make them small are simply too far. I’d want a much bigger mid bass horn, and a nice 160Hz JMLC mid horn that’s about 1m across would be epic!

I wouldn’t describe the Animas as small. I think they’re actually quite effective for what they are. I recall at least a couple of impressive sessions with the pair @Ciderpig had in Malvern, the bass horn was cleverly judged to have enough of the right sort of bass without necessarily needing a further Sub.

This was a very good system, but you might have to do quite a lot of decorating to earn enough points for both the speakers and amps :laughing:

Doesn’t Frank @f1eng run Animas? (apologies if I’ve got that as wrong as usual)

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I’ve seen better looking DIY speakers than those. Ugh. Like a mutated chess piece.

The duo’s at least look lovely but are they really that big of an upgrade?

This is the nitty gritty of horn ambition isnt it? The better they sound, the bigger and uglier they get and this goes for commercial equipment too, its physics. Also, the more you get into DIY, the more you hear the possibility of incremental quality increases that will result in equipment that will blot out all light in your living room, and this never stops. I can think of many entertaining ways of making mine more extreme. :joy:

I honestly prefer the look of DIY, it’s form following function. Pretty much all commercial horn systems are made for a market that isn’t mine and imo are absolutely tasteless.

The best sounding AG’s are absolutely huge with a massive stack of subs, look fucking ridiculous and are eye-watering cost wise. I doubt the wee 38 grand jobbies would do what they do, or please me tbh (now my ears are trained to horn madness) and I fucking HATE the look. All that glossy, eye popping polish and/or colour :nauseated_face:. Speakers for Lamborghini owners…

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Its a sanity check in some ways. As you pointed out earlier - thirty eight thousand pounds! I’d find it helpful to understand the options and then make a choice that I can live with. The art of the possible sound wise versus the art of the liveable. £38k is a lot cheaper than a divorce by a significant margin!

Subjective and debatable. To be honest I cannot remember :man_shrugging:

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Reported. :angry:

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If you’re spending that much you could use some of the budget to build a wall (with room behind) so only the apertures show through? Some clever decorating and you could probably hide even some of the more ‘full-on’ speakers enjoyed on here.

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Have a listen to a few things, I doubt a Tune Audio type speaker would cost too much to design and make. Over the last few years I have been playing with EJMLC flares and I really think they better everything else I have heard.

Here are some that have been sand printed and some that were CNC cut in solid walnut.

I personally think the sand prints look better than many commercial thin plastic horns, incredibly accurate and very pretty in the charcoal grey colour.

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Yeah I reckon if you have budget, @Jim 's project model is the way to go. Spend less on DIY that will sound glorious but be ugly, and more on somewhere to put it all so it doesn’t matter.

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I’d agree.

But in my situation I haven’t got space behind that wall/ bay window as it leads onto a balcony terrace and then a drop.

The space I do have is an original basement area which sits under the lounge, hall, outside terrace, and Hel’s lounge (so about 30 foot by 40 foot) but would require a mahoosive amount of time and money to fully excavate and turn into a functioning room - lottery win required.

Have you considered moving house?

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