You may well be right here, I’ve had a business acc for so long I forget the rules are different.
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Just distracted
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ebay is one massive scam, in the last week i “sold” seven grands worth of kit, all of which bar one phono stage (the buyer seems to have vanished zero replies) have been subjected to a “30 day payout hold” due to “policy”.
however after a long chat with one of their ‘senior agents” I’ve discovered a couple of things;
Since PayPal divorced ebay every sale is bound by the distance sellers regulations.
so, regardless of ebay setting “no returns” as the default setting any sale can be returned up to 30 days with no dispute.
this is why ebay have in the most part always, often inexplicably, sided with the buyers.
Why the 30 days hold? well prior to that hand grenade shitstorm of a clusterfuck Liz Truss ebay could underwrite its sales with cheap borrowing, but now they’re at risk. So high value goods are being singled out to reduce the borrowing.
that said I cancelled all the sales, balls to ebay I’m building my own marketplace!
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This has always been true if it is a fixed price sale, or for auction sales if you are a business account.
It is not true for auction sales from a personal account.
WARNING: Distance Selling Regulations on eBay! - AndrewMinalto.com.
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Yep, the only exception to “no returns” for private sellers, is if the object is faulty or not as described.
Otherwise they’re not allowed to return it because they changed their mind. Hence why this guy tried to convince me something was wrong with it!
Ok so I’ve got someone saying they want to audition/hear some speakers I’m selling. I’m really busy and these speakers are pretty well documented so wtf is anyone going to learn from listening in my room? - plus it’s a massive ballache if someone I don’t know comes round and then doesn’t want them. Anyway I know the answer which is tell them to pay up or fuck off. I’ve done that twice recently, just seems to be a thing on eBay recently so any protocol advice/similar experiences would be of interest. Any of you lot could come round any time of course (well maybe not any of you)
Think you’ve pretty much nailed it with Pay Up or Fuck Off.
Dunno what else to say ? Maybe sure, just come on in and case the joint.
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People for whom the chase is better than the catch.
Definitely put them in the bin. After you’ve given them a massive wedgie, obvs.
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I have asked that in the past to ensure that the listing is real it is not a hijacked account etc.
However you can normally get that reassurance by asking a few questions, or asking for an extra photo.
A scammer won’t be able to do either.
Only other reason is to ensure there are no fucked drivers etc
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There are lots of legitimate reasons for not offering a home demo (Packed and ready to go / in storage etc). The trouble is by not being forthcoming with a demo more timid customers read it as: ‘he’s got something to hide / scam etc’. Speakers due to their fragile nature tend to require the extra mile or at least the option.
I wish it wasn’t so. Ball ache
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I still think casing the joint is a valid reason not to.
Many real hi-fi systems are pretty high ticket items.
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Tell them your speakers are in your second home in the opposite end of country to where they are.
About 650 miles travel should put them off.
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If his feedback is ok, you’ve agreed a price and he just wants to hear them before taking with him I don’t see an issue with it tbh. He probably just wants to make sure everything is as described and check he’s not being sold a lemon.
If he just wants to come round to have a listen then decide if he wants them I’d be telling him to p!ss off.
When I bought my sub a few years ago the guy insisted I had a good look at it and had a listen to ensure I was happy with everything before packing it up for me.
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Maybe legit, but inviting some rando from an auction site around for a visit - no thanks!
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When I attempted to sell hifi for an existence, I used to find it frustrating that so few people wanted a demo - too often they’d end up with stuff that just didn’t suit their wants and needs, and then blame me for mis-selling to them!
If I’m spending a chunk of my own cash I do often ask for a demo, particularly because many people mis-describe what they’re selling, and speakers seem especially prone to fuckery. I like to check things over, seems reasonable to me. If they tell me to fuck off I do. It’s just Stuff, and I tell myself I prolly dodged a bullet.
Thing is, you may know you’re honest and your description is good - but to your potential buyer you’re just some rando. If they’re the one doing the legwork to travel to you, a cuppa tea and half an hour of your time is unlikely to yield any harm, and it may just save you the grief of a refund process and a second chance for parcel-carriers to smash your shit up.
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Exactly what a scammer would do.
I have sold speakers like this. I normally ask a few questions, what speakers have you got now? What amps are you thinking of using etc The same sort of questions that would be asked on a forum
You can easily work out if the person knows their hifi or not.
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I recently had someone who was very interested in my speakers for sale.
Was very positive, but wanted to demo them.
I said fine. Turned out he was a very nice guy, helped me get the crates out of the loft, paid by bank transfer, made sure it went through, before we loaded them in his car.
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Seems the right response to me.
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That your Magico gone Gregg 