This is our garage. It’s not evident from the photos that the ceiling is completely shot - holes in it etc., parts fallen away due to historical leaks. You can see daylight under the doors which isn’t great with the price of energy.
Basically £20k to screed the floor, insulated board out the walls, including a stud wall to seal off the doors. A few extras like a glazed fire door back into the house, a new electricity consumer unit, “rationalise” the rat’s nest of pipes etc.
The big-ticket item included in the above which the builder explicitly said he would pad is £7k + VAT for joinery for building an array of storage and work surfaces. His joiner Keith is very good, although he consumes tea at an alarming rate. The builder said we could go cheaper at Ikea, but buy cheap buy twice etc.
We’ll basically end up with a well-specified utility room that would win us back at least one bedroom being currently misused. It’s a lot of money for the unwaged. The wife is keen and is pulling the full “love it or list it” compared to the costs involved with moving.
The builder isn’t ripping us off. His team are very good and we’ve done well by him in the past.
On a related note, we’ve just been doing up the place we bought and for our bedroom and my eldest son’s bedroom, have had to get IKEA wardrobes as we couldn’t afford getting fitted units. I resent it; they look ok but not great, with annoying gaps and spacing etc., and of course feel a bit flimsy when you use them.
If you can afford it I’d pay and get them done properly. Satisfaction of ownership will be much greater.
I’d second that. It doesn’t look very wide as it is and the ‘boarding out’ and new stud wall will reduce it further.
If you don’t plan ever to drive a car in again then you could draught-proof the doors by putting timber stops (maybe it already has these ?) at sides and top and a sill on the threshold at the bottom. The doors would still be uninsulated though.
I’m slightly curious about the brickwork. The wall on the left looks like it has a bond (English) corresponding to a 9" thickness, but the other two walls are simple ‘running’ bond suggesting either a proper cavity wall or perhaps just a 4.5" thick one. 4.5" might be OK for a garage but walls like this weren’t always built with a damp-proof course and might let a significant amount of water soak through if the outside is unprotected and exposed to the prevailing wind. Are you sure the floor has a DPM as well ?
If you’re going to go for it though then my preference would be for not cutting corners.
We’re just having fitted wardrobes done in one of the bedrooms. Builder / joiner bloke said he could make them but much cheaper to go for Howden stuff. We went to a showroom last week. All quality, not flimsy like IKEA.
Builders can charge whatever they feel like, there is way more work available than people to do it, so The Price Is The Price. What you’ve been quoted seems commensurate with what we’ve got (not) going-on. FWVLIW.
You’re adding value. Whether cost = benefit in terms of any future sale in the UK’s current fucked-up state is the square-root of fucknose, but you’re in That London, so you have the best chance to recoup of anywhere. Why would you move anyway? You don’t strike me as the wannabe cuntry-squire type, so may as well make where you live more-liveable. Life Is Short / can’t take it with you…
I thought the plan was to put a utility room into the garage at Guy’s place and take over the utility room for the hi fi. We’ve done a kitchen and a laundry recently. It seems to me that £7k is not far off what we paid for the laundry to be fitted out and tiled etc.
My brother converted his garage to a ‘man cave’, got the builders to leave the garage door in place but seal it off inside with a stud wall and insulate etc. His plan was to put lazyboys, big TV and playstation etc in there…
Having a dedicated utility room would be a great idea, as it stops that kind of shit from taking over the house.
IKEA kitchen and wardrobe stuff is ok. It’ll last for years and be acceptable, especially for the fairly light use that it’s likely to get. When it’s bolted together and to the wall correctly, it’s perfectly sturdy - my IKEA wardrobes in our bedroom are 12 years old and are fine.
That said, getting something joiner built would be much more additive in terms of house value and, I imagine, “pleasure of use”. If you’re planning on staying there a while, I reckon just do it.
I voted massive horns. It’s a bit narrow but you could still do it.
From this perspective joy is visible.
Your wife will have the space she desires as you will not care about the rest of the house and so it can be painted floribunda and crammed with soft furnishings etc.
I would do it at that price, had similar work priced on our place recently and that is not taking the piss. Also storage is not excessive, get a price yourself from the likes of Howdens and it will add up the same. Been there. Let a skilled carpenter you trust do it.
My only suggestion for adding value would be partition off a study/home office at the front and add a window, this is typical of all new builds these days catering for hybrid working. Worth a thought, laundry could still be circa 2.5 x 2.