Agree with that, constant DC charging will cause more far battery degradation than charging to 100% on AC.
They’re probably right, it sounds like the LFP battery used in some of the rear wheel drive Teslas and that was recommended to got to 100%
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Just be aware if you test drive a new one first, the second hand ones will have a slightly smaller battery (and slower performance) and even more mediocre infotainment system than the current one.
Overall though, been very pleased with our 6-seat buzz.
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I did notice that, seems second hand ones with the smaller battery are generally a fair bit less too.
Didn’t know the infotainment was different though
I think that the main thing you can take from EVs is that the batteries are really good, and getting even better. Even old ones are holding out much better than was expected, and modern chemistries and BMS systems mean they really will outlast the car.
Unless you had an old Nissan Leaf. They were shit.
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My fully electric is only 3 ½ years old and shows no noticable range difference from new.
Our 2005 Prius hybrid is still on its original traction battery and still in daily use by our daughter, our 2012 plug in hybrid Prius never quite achieved the claimed all electric range but is still going strong, lost around 10% range. Our 2018 Prius plug in is still like new.
It obviously is influenced by the design and cooling of the battery pack and the control software but assuming that is soa I don’t think battery life is a worry.
Even taxis with 300 to 400k miles always fast DC charged seem to be OK, mind you I suspect with an EV it is years not miles which determines rate of deterioration - which will take the average car buyer a long time to assimilate.
Also enjoying mine - It’s a grower and if my sums are right I will save myself £1K in fuel a year. Should help offset some of the depreciation
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Have you got a home charger Andy?
Yarp - I got a Zeppi 7KW charger installed at the same times when we added some battery storage in May - I didn’t want it out the front of the house on view so they fitted it at the rear by running the cable into the loft on one end and the to the oppo side at the back - Took 'em 8 hours but the fitting was free.
Today I 3d printed myself a remote holster - The finish is rough but it’s proved the idea
I wanted of a no faff charge process. Need to add some p clips and reprint
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Currently at a supercharger, which is costing me 24 cents per unit. Welcome to France.
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Is that with a Tesla subscription?
It’s with a Tesla, which I think is cheaper than the sub for non Tesla EVs. But not by much, I think.
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The sub is the same pricing.
What’s slightly unexpected is that many of the superchargers I went to were open to all cars, but only had Teslas. They’re much cheaper than alternatives - FastNed is 61¢, Tesla all below 40, and some below 20 off peak. It’s not a small sample thing - there could be 20 cars there, all Tesla.
Tesla integrates the charging into the sat nav to favour its own chargers, so a Tesla will likely only charge at a Tesla charger, but even basic planning by drivers of other EVs would mean you’d see a lot more there.
It’s either unwillingness to drive 1km away from the motorway (the Tesla chargers were often at a hotel or shopping centre a couple of minutes off the motorway), or the Tesla hate is still strong in Europe. Or they don’t care about saving €15 a charge.
I’m assuming with the Superchargers I’d have to use the Tesla app to pay rather than just swiping a card like normal on other chargers?
You can PAYG, but if you have a sub you need to use the app.
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Do they All have type 2 leads?
They’re all CCS. Type 2 is the home connector.
Yes, of course 
Thanks.